IN SEARCH OF A METHOD

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IN SEARCH OF A METHOD

Postby dat8962 » Aug 24th, '10, 20:09



I'm enquiring amongst the mentalists on this forum to ask if you could point me in the direction of a method for the following.

I need to have an apparently random spectator chosen from an audience of 70 to 80 people. However, the spec will have actually been pre-selected by me but I need to make it appear that his selection, by whatever method is totally random.

Any suggestions for a reference point?

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Postby daleshrimpton » Aug 24th, '10, 20:15

me... see pm. :)

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Postby dat8962 » Aug 24th, '10, 20:29

Thanks Dale. Much appreciated.

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Postby Lawrence » Aug 24th, '10, 21:40

Did you ever watch Magicians? :wink:

If not, force a seat number?

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Postby dat8962 » Aug 24th, '10, 22:41

Thanks for the PM's so far which have provided some interesting possibilities.

This is a corporate after dinner set so there won't be seat numbers although there is a probability that there will be table numbers as people will have dined and then listened to an after dinner speaker.

I will personally know a high number of the guests that are attending and that's why it must look like a totally random selection to be convincing. Also, the apparent randomness is not because of the trick itself, but because I want to personalise the outcome while making the performance appear more impossible.

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Postby magicofthemind » Aug 25th, '10, 10:24

OM box?

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Postby A J Irving » Aug 25th, '10, 10:43

How about you select five or six people including your chosen participant and create some devilishly fiendish way of eliminating them until your left with your chosen one. Maybe trying some other effect on all of them but it doesn't quite work on him/her so you dismiss the rest and 'try something else' to try to regain your reputation.

By the point that your actually doing your main piece, with any luck the audience will have forgotten that you just flat out asked the individual to be involved.

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Postby daleshrimpton » Aug 25th, '10, 11:08

dat8962 wrote:Thanks for the PM's so far which have provided some interesting possibilities.

This is a corporate after dinner set so there won't be seat numbers although there is a probability that there will be table numbers as people will have dined and then listened to an after dinner speaker.

I will personally know a high number of the guests that are attending and that's why it must look like a totally random selection to be convincing. Also, the apparent randomness is not because of the trick itself, but because I want to personalise the outcome while making the performance appear more impossible.


I suppose it depends on how many tables there are, but you could genuinly choose somebody at random to help out with one effect, then use them help you chose the next helper.
think of the Tables as objects, P.A.T.E.O, or Equivoke the tables, till you end up with the one that your chosen volunteer is on. Then use something on that table like choosing the highest card, or the white ball from a (flat change) bag of black ones, in order to chose that spectator.

with the bulk of the picking being done by another member of teh audience, there is no way they are going to question it.


or, have a raffle ticket stuck to the bottom of each chair.
then have somebody pick a ticket out, which you switch for the one under their chair.

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Postby phillipnorthfield » Aug 25th, '10, 11:11

Lawrence wrote:Did you ever watch Magicians? :wink:

If not, force a seat number?


Hahaha, No seriously I've done it and it works.... ages to practice though.

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Postby greedoniz » Aug 25th, '10, 11:21

learn to throw a frisbee with incredible accuracy

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Postby Craig Browning » Aug 25th, '10, 12:45

greedoniz wrote:learn to throw a frisbee with incredible accuracy


No, no... just have two people in the audience that can toss a frisbee such :lol:

I'd have to say that going with the simpler, most direct manner of force is going to be your best bet... get everyone's business card as the come in and drop them into a zip-lock baggie, etc... it's innocent enough, especially if you draw from the bag a few times previous for participants in other show bits.

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Postby bmat » Aug 25th, '10, 17:49

Magician: For my next trick I need a volunteer, (looking around for a second or two,) how about you Sir? Yes, looks like you will fit nicely into the trap door....

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Postby Harris » Aug 25th, '10, 18:10

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