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There was a discussion a while back about getting 'the perfect pass'
so i thought i'd pop a vid up (Plus i am a little bored)

the is the exact one i do in performance, somtimes on the ofbeat, somtimes not (for EG i us it in my ambitious card routine, face up so they see)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS0VVqW4UJI

Any feedback i'd welcome.

Regards,

Hi,
Although i couldnt see your elbows,it seems they are lifting up when the pass is made,which is why your hands are moving quite alot
What i would suggest is to keep your elbows tucked in to your side,and hope fully this will eleviate the big hand movements.
A layperson probably wouldnt know what you are doing,but they WILL know your doing something.
Hope this helps.

Deano

Excellent advice, i appreciate that. thanks!

No problem at all,
Good luck,and hope this helps.
I look forward too seeing your next Video,

Deano

Deano,

I've hadf a think about what you've said and done a re-recording.

any improvement? or worse do you think?

i rele wanna get this nailed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNH-cFhD ... re=channel

EDIT: The 6ofhearts one was a bit sloppy - i know.

Much Much better.that looks pretty slik to me. does it feel any better for you to perform?

Keep up the good work mate.

Deano

If you really want to improve your pass. I've got a much better learning tool. First I'll give you the 'method' to improve, then I will explain why and all should become clear.

First forget (for now) the effect on your video clip. Come up with a very simple straight forward Ambition Card Routine. During one segment of the bringing the card to the top use the pass. Also use a tilt move, double undercut, whatever. For arguments sake bring the card to the top 3 times, only once with the pass.

Once you have the Ambition Card smooth and at performance level, video the thing and then show it here. However ask about the effect, along the lines of: "Hey people, I'm working out a quick and dirty Ambitious Card Routine, please take a look and any critisism would be appreciated.

Then watch for remarks. some may notice the pass and offer advice on improvements. (if they do notice, then obviously your pass is lacking in the first place, but at least you know for sure) If the comments bi-pass the pass (pun intended) and advice is made elsewhere, then you know where you stand on the pass and have the bonus of tips in other areas.

Ask 'how is my pass' then you have tipped your hand. We know it is there, we are going to see it and we are going suggest improvements that may not be improvements.

The fact of the matter is we don't perform the pass, we perform and effect that uses the pass, and that is what needs to be judged because if the trick passes the test then obviously so does the pass. If some of the magicians don't recognize that you have used one you are well on your way. But you will never know that if you start by asking the question you asked.

Understand my point?

But to answer your question, your pass didn't look great, Did I see the actual move? Nope, card was not there, then it was. Did I know something was up. You bet. Your arms jerked, you turned the deck for no reason at the end, really didn't make sense. If you put the pass in a better routine with some patter and slowed it down like you were actually presenting something rather then just doing a trick, then it possibly was very good.

And lastly if that is the effect, then it needs a little 'umph' for lack of a better word.

Bmat,
He wasnt doing a routine,he was simply asking what people thought of his pass,he probably wants to perfect the pass,so that he can use the move in a routine.
so i dont think patter is needed when practicing a sleight.
Have you ever sat there with a pack of cards doing false shuffles/cuts etc as practice so that you could perform them in a routine and used any patter?probably not.
He was merely asking a question.

Deano