Classic Palm with big hands

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Classic Palm with big hands

Postby millsy5 » May 11th, '05, 14:56



I've been trying the classic palm for some time now but I can't seem to do it. I'm guessing that part of the problem is that as I'm living in Ireland, the largest coin I can do this with is a 2 Euro coin. I read in an older post that this is about the same size as a 10p coin. What doesn't help much is that I have very big thin hands.

I can't seem to put the coin into classic palm and keep it there. Even when I put the coin into classic palm position using by other hand I find it very difficult to keep it palmed when my hand is only somewhat straight. And when I try to straighten my hand so that it looks natural the coin falls out.

Does anyone have any advice please??

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Postby daleshrimpton » May 11th, '05, 15:00

since when does the hand, go straight when its in a relaxed position?
I suspect that the hand is just not being relaxed, there fore the muscles are tense.

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Postby Nairolf » May 11th, '05, 15:45

Totally agree with daleshrimpton, hands are "curved" when in relaxed position, you will never be able to palm a coin (without using glue :wink: ) by streching it straight.

Hand size is not an issue for magic, practice is though...

Maybe you just don't have the technique right yet, don't despair... try using the muscle below your thumb if that makes sense...

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Postby magicdiscoman » May 11th, '05, 17:36

a 10p sized coin is hard to palm straight away, if your having trouble with your palming by some plastic tokens from a kids toy like connect four or a shopping kit which will have diferent sizes to practise with.
i started with rubber balls of diferent sizes and some i cut in half as a general guide you will find that two middle fingers width is an ideak starter for palming.

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Postby dat8962 » May 11th, '05, 22:08

Agree with Dale and Magicdiscoman

Practice is the answer and I have huge hands :lol:

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Postby Daza XIII » May 12th, '05, 13:59

You might want to try palming something like the crimped metal beer bottle tops. The sharp edges dig into your hand and make them fairly easy to palm so you’ll become more comfortable with what you can and can’t do with your hand.
It may prove easier when you go back to other objects as you’ll have found the ideal placement in your palm and got used to the feeling of having something held there.
Other than that, its practise I’m afraid and if your worried about not looking natural try doing more natural things like making a cup of coffee whilst palming which will get you used to moving your hand and fingers around a bit.

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Postby daleshrimpton » May 12th, '05, 14:51

I know that i have passed on the crown cork idea myself, but i still have a feeling that the hand is being held far to ridgid. For curiosity's sake, why do you need to clasic palm a coin?
Most times, its not required, only that you hold the coin in a relaxed mode.Using high levels of mis direction in order to persuade on lookers to look elsewhere.

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Postby Bcfaigg » May 12th, '05, 23:51

Keep practising - I must admit, my hands are not that big, but when I started learning coin magic a few weeks ago, I could only palm a £2 coin and a 50 pence one. I wanted to do magic with 10p - and it kept falling out.
I spent a weekend walking around and trying to do stuff with a 10p coin palmed most of the time, and by the end it came naturally - I am not saying that I am good at palming, but it feels natural - like most sleights - whether coin/magic, etc. It is all about getting the "muscle memory" - once your hands are used to doing it, it just comes naturally.
Of course big hands may be a problem.

Still - you know what they say about big hands......................big gloves

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Postby Sam:monkey fist » May 14th, '05, 20:18

Practice practice practice. once the knack is learned you should be able to palm any coin. Poker chips are also good to practice with.
Try palming it while you are typing, writing or even practicing your shuffling BUT DON'T GIVE UP everyone struggles with something. Me for instance I'm sH#t at the back palm. :twisted:

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Postby jokerdan » May 15th, '05, 09:45

lol, i can't back palm bicycle cards at all, it always flicks our at one edge, which sometimes i can hide.

I find it difficult to use the classic palm with 10p pieces, but i have really annoyingly small hands. Just use the thumb muscle then stretch out the thumb and let the coin fall into the classic palm as smoothly as possible, so it looks like you have stretched all of your fingers.

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Postby Cloud » May 16th, '05, 11:27

Thats a very good tip with the beer bottle tops, they are about the same size as a 10p but better edges, ideal for training at the classic palm.

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