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"I was hypnotised to buy their DVD"?

Postby Danny Joseph » Feb 3rd, '11, 01:15



So there's this Hypnotic training DVD, sold by the writers of a free blog I signed up for. I was reading the E-mail and fair enough, it advertised the DVD a little.

However I was shocked when I noticed the hypnotic language, which I actually use when achieving phenomenal effects via hypnosis, within a sales paragraph.

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(Paraphrase) If you would like to buy the DVD go /Here/.. Or:

(Quote form here on)

If you are not sure yet, then that's cool! You can take your time, enjoy the blog and free videos - and try not to imagine how cool it would be to have this skillset in full ;-)


A week later, I have not seen any reviews or trailers for this DVD, but I feel quite compelled to buy it.

Morally, I am quite insecure.
Legally, exactly the same.

I feel it is like a loophole around the subliminal advertising ban. I also feel very disrespected and unable to make personal, private, discisions.

- Danny.

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Postby Arkesus » Feb 3rd, '11, 01:25

From reading that I feel no more compelled to buy it then I did before. What does that say about me as a hypnosis subject?

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Postby Danny Joseph » Feb 3rd, '11, 01:27

Arkesus wrote:From reading that I feel no more compelled to buy it then I did before. What does that say about me as a hypnosis subject?


Remember covert hypnosis only works on those who don't know about it. - At least that was my teaching.

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Re: "I was hypnotised to buy their DVD"?

Postby bmat » Feb 3rd, '11, 04:05

Danny Joseph wrote:So there's this Hypnotic training DVD, sold by the writers of a free blog I signed up for. I was reading the E-mail and fair enough, it advertised the DVD a little.

However I was shocked when I noticed the hypnotic language, which I actually use when achieving phenomenal effects via hypnosis, within a sales paragraph.

Quote:
(Paraphrase) If you would like to buy the DVD go /Here/.. Or:

(Quote form here on)

If you are not sure yet, then that's cool! You can take your time, enjoy the blog and free videos - and try not to imagine how cool it would be to have this skillset in full ;-)


A week later, I have not seen any reviews or trailers for this DVD, but I feel quite compelled to buy it.

Morally, I am quite insecure.
Legally, exactly the same.

I feel it is like a loophole around the subliminal advertising ban. I also feel very disrespected and unable to make personal, private, discisions.

- Danny.


Hate to break it to you, but dispite all the hype around subliminal advertising in the 70's it has repeatedly been shown that it does not work. Stanford University did some really interesting studies and ground breaking work on the subject, unfortunatly every test that supported sublminal advertising not only failed but proved to be 'tainted'. It remains an interesting subject and one I quite enjoyed studying but, sadly the evidence is quite clear and is not really even in debate anymore.

And just to be clear, sublminal advertising is not hypnosis. Two different fields with a thread that links them together.

That is also not to say that there are words and adds designed to lead you in certain directions but that is not subliminal, often it is cleaver and deals with name and term recognition, targeting specific audiences and test after test of audience testing to get phrasing and imaging just right. But it is not subliminal.

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Postby Grimshaw » Feb 3rd, '11, 09:07

Tis true, even that Vicary chap admitted to fudging the numbers on his experiment.

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Postby teknohippy » Feb 3rd, '11, 11:05

Persuasive text is just good marketing surely? It's what marketing departments and advertisers do all the time, persuade and suggest.

The only purpose of an advert is to make you buy something you didn't need before it made you think you needed it?

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Postby screwystewie » Feb 3rd, '11, 12:15

I really am laughing out loud.

What you experienced was not hypnotism, it was marketing.

All day long marketeers persuade people to do things against their will. It's not magic, it's called copy writing.

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Postby spooneythegoon » Feb 3rd, '11, 13:54

Danny Joseph wrote:
Arkesus wrote:From reading that I feel no more compelled to buy it then I did before. What does that say about me as a hypnosis subject?


Remember covert hypnosis only works on those who don't know about it. - At least that was my teaching.


But you knew about it, and therefore it shouldn't be effective, should it? :wink:

It is their job to use this kind of persuasive language and it's nothing special, it's featured in almost every advertisement out there (especially in the magic world).

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Postby Ted » Feb 3rd, '11, 14:15

Please don't be offended, but I don't buy into a lot of the claims made about hypnotism. In my opinion there are a lot of hypno-related products on sale now that are misleading in their own right.

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Postby teknohippy » Feb 3rd, '11, 14:23

Ted wrote:Please don't be offended, but I don't buy into a lot of the claims made about hypnotism. In my opinion there are a lot of hypno-related products on sale now that are misleading in their own right.

T.


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Postby Erwin » Feb 3rd, '11, 15:09

I find myself wanting to buy MK-Mod cards although I have no interest in performing mentalism. What the hell just happened?

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Postby Ted » Feb 3rd, '11, 16:34

Erwin wrote:I find myself wanting to buy MK-Mod cards although I have no interest in performing mentalism. What the hell just happened?


Do you think that maybe you are more interesting in mentalism than you thought?
It's possible, because this style of performing has become a lot more popular recently.

Don't imagine that it's much more difficult than standard magic, either.
It can bring a really satisfying new twist to the stuff you perform.

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Postby Erwin » Feb 3rd, '11, 17:09

I am expecting a telefon call any minute quoting Robert Frost...

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Postby kartoffelngeist » Feb 3rd, '11, 20:51

Does the smiley at the end not suggest it was tongue in cheek?

That's how I read it anyway...

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Postby Braunfelt » Feb 3rd, '11, 22:21

If there is no reviews around and nobody knows it I would wait. If you are looking for something that maybe simular look up The Manchurian Approach Which seems to be not bad and recommended by a few. I have the material but its not for me, perhaps one day I will give it a try.

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