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Personally, I would like to see more magic apps, but not the ones that are currently available. Of course I agree with the idea of apps such as iDoodle being about to replace pen and paper when you're asked to do an on the fly effect. However, a lot of the current apps are simply transplanted tricks that, for me, don't use the phone to its full advantage.

Is doing a force that you could easily do with a deck of cards but now have on your phone more convenient? Yes. More magical? Definitely not. I don't want to sound like an Apple fangirl, but the hardware on both iPhone and iPad is pretty impressive: is there nothing we can do with these devices that turns the phone itself into a magic object? Telling an audience member you feel there is something wrong with your device, taking a picture, and it turns out to be a spirit photograph? Not a "psychic friend" on the end of the line, but the phone itself giving the answers? (can you tell I like bizarre stuff )

I am not opposed to using apps, but I feel that the ideas can be taken much further than they currently are.

Madelon Hoedt wrote:Telling an audience member you feel there is something wrong with your device, taking a picture, and it turns out to be a spirit photograph?

All your dreams have come true


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PGUVpjcDZ0

I know about a few, and there was a feature in last Mystic Menagerie about these kinds of apps. However, NOT the point of my post...

grant_m23 wrote:Presented right, iDoodle really is powerful. Yes, it's a pub trick at best, but a very good one. Don't perform it as an phone effect as such, but as a replacement for "not having" a pen or paper on you. If you build the story right, the phone becomes just a convenient notepad.
G

Then why not use a pen and paper?
Magis SMS sounds like something I would lose interest in a quarter of the way through the trick.
Nothing I have seen on this thread, or on anyone's iphone, makes me reconsider my view that phones are for making calls.

TonyB wrote:

grant_m23 wrote:Presented right, iDoodle really is powerful. Yes, it's a pub trick at best, but a very good one. Don't perform it as an phone effect as such, but as a replacement for "not having" a pen or paper on you. If you build the story right, the phone becomes just a convenient notepad.
G

Then why not use a pen and paper?

Because a piece of paper doesn't change what you wrote on it depending on which way you turn it over.

I use iForce in two ways. Both are mainly used to predict whether the spectator is thinking about A, B, C or D.

1. I first perform Banachek's version of guessing which letter they'll pick out of ABCD, with plain paper and pen/pencil (can also be done with a sw@@i, of course). Then I tell them, as an afterthought, that some people think I might have somehow written on the back of the paper while they weren't looking, so we're going to switch to something more imprevious to cheating. Out comes the iPhone.

2. I ask the spectator to write ABCD on iForce with their finger, so I can figure their patterns of thinking, study the writings for a moment, then play the rest of the routine out with the iForce a few times.

I do a body part bit with it.

1. Face
2. Eyes
3. Smile
4. Boobs
5. Botty
6. Legs
7. Hands
8. Feet

Power of the Positive

Talk about how all women have one part of their body they think is pretty good. Everyone would change some things, but every lady has a part of themselves they think isn't too shabby. Positive thinking is important in life, can change how you feel about things...

Blah blah, draw the body part, etc.

(Can be doe on guys too, asking them which part on a lady they like the best)

Cool, I like that. It doesn't really fit my style, but I might give it a try with your permission.

Magic apps have their place but good ones are very few and far between. iForce and Magic SMS are two of the best ones that I have used. Generally, though, I tend to avoid them because the overwhelming majority are a complete waste of time. I should know because I've got over thirty magic apps and only use the two mentioned.

if idoodle is the new name for iforce I have to admit it changed my mind about using my ipod in a magic trick.

I use two apps for magic.

iforce (idoodle) because it really is brilliant:

I play around with the doodle aspect, draw a picture. I let somebody else draw a picture, then I get a brilliant idea of trying a magic trick with it. I make my prediction, turn the ipod face down on the table. I let the spectator pick it up and of course the prediction is correct.

A few things to think about. I do not use it in any sort of 'routine' or if I am setting out to perform a few tricks. I used it at work, I work with technicians who know I do magic. I started out asking them if they have seen the doodle app and we draw pictures and stuff. And because they know I am a magician, (yet I don't show them stuff often) I can say, 'hey lets try something...' They love it. Of course they have all seen it now. But I am always changing things because I work for a very large company, now the biggest of its kind there are plenty of coorperate people visiting our office and every now and again the director of tech opps will pull me aside and ask if I could show somebody something. I use the iforce and it even baffles the tech opps director even though he has seen it, it is always different. Due to the fact we deal in technology the ipod fits right in.

I'll also use it on the rare occaison that my wife will ask me to show somebody a trick.

The other app I use is the magic scan. While it is incredibly stupid (in my opinion) it gets a fantastic response everytime. Again I only use it in situations such as the one above. Never would I incorperate them into my routines because they just don't fit.

When I first started out with them I had trouble getting it correct every time. Unfortunatly you still have to practice.

iForce is the new name for the app.

The way the story goes, the designer cnanged it from D****e to iForce because ordinary people liked d****e way too much, and they actually went to the appstore to download it... and found out everything about the trick.

Please remove the name of d****e from your message, to keep the secret of iForce intact

dup wrote:iForce is the new name for the app.

The way the story goes, the designer cnanged it from D****e to iForce because ordinary people liked d****e way too much, and they actually went to the appstore to download it... and found out everything about the trick.

Please remove the name of d****e from your message, to keep the secret of iForce intact

So it is one and the same. Not really worried about keeping the secret, nobody I've showed this too has ever searched for the app. Kind of like any magic trick, if one really wants to know then you can google it, even just a description and it is not hard to find the secret.

I'll tell you the real secret. Try not to fool people, try to entertain them. If you fool them they feel like an idiot and then will go to great lengths to figure it out.

If you entertain them in the process of fooling them they don't really care how its done. They have a great time, they laugh and are not made to feel like an idiot. Most will even tell you that they don't want to know how something is done because they enjoyed it so much.

Still working on the entertaining part. I think I had it done to par in my last show, but I'm having trouble with it on close-up.