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I've been trying to get this move sorted for a while now, using the info on Ian Kendall's excellent "virtual Sessions". Once I'd got the knack it was pretty easy to get a jump of around 10cm with the occasional jump upto 15cm. However I seem to be stuck at that level for a week now without any noticeable improvement. The James Brown-style 50cm vertical jump seems a long way off!

I realise there are other threads about the MP on TM, so this is more a query about whether anyone can remember when they were learning this move how their progress went and if they hit any plateaus on the way? Thanks.

I learned this move from Ian as well. It wasn't unusual for me not to see any change in height for weeks (months!) at a time. To get any where near Ian's level means being in it for the long haul. I've been doing it for about 4 years and woe betide me if I let it slip for a month or two... The callus on my hand disappears and the distance the coin travels probably halves. It's such a seldom used muscle on your hand so it's gonna take a lot of work to build it up - it's not like you're performing a natural movement that happens frequently during the day. I alternate days with a light coin(half dollar or old penny) then a day with a heavier coin (like an early half crown or even a dollar). Whether this is good practise, I dunno, but it seems to help me. The most important thing though is to keep at it as often as possible during the day, every day. I'd go through periods where I'd practise the move hundreds and hundreds of times a day (not even trying for height, merely powering the coin from hand to hand as hard as possible over and over in order to build up the muscle)... and lo and behold after a few weeks I'd then surprise myself by how high I could make the coin go. Anyway hope this helps a bit and I'm sure others with far more experience than I will post more useful info soon.

That's really helpful - thanks! When learning the coin roll I could see improvement each time I did it, but the muscle pass just hit that wall. I'll just carry on with it and maybe in a few months the 50cm vertical jump will be happening.

It took me a good couple of years to get up to the half metre mark. And that was three hours a day...

Remember, it's not really a race. There will always be _someone_ who does a wee bit better, but if you work hard you will be so much better than everyone else

Plateux happen. Then you break through and feel good all day...

Ian

keep in mind you are developing a muscle and that takes time to get stronger. I recomend you don't practice this move for hours on end. Once you have it down take a break at least every other day. Muscles build when excersized and then at rest. They need that time to re-coup so to speak.

The muscle pass is the work of the devil. You'd do well to steer well clear of it if you value your soul.

The best way to practice it is not to be greedy and let the time do it, i started practicing it 3 or 4 years ago and only for 3 or five minutes each day.

everytime i went to the coffee machine with 0.5 € coin in my hand, I give it 4 or 5 trys , because it wasn't a sleight that I really wanted to learn, so without that pressure and after 3 or 4 years I can make it jump for 40 to 50 cm.

take your time and sooner or later it will be very compensatory.

magic regards to all