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Hi all,
Just joined and already got a question. There is an ITR on MoreMagicTricks.co.uk called the I-Boss. If i was going to buy it I would go for the woolly nylon version (http://www.moremagictricks.co.uk/shopdi ... Yes&sppp=7). Now the question. I have 1km of woolly nylon IT and I wanted to know if the thread snapped while using the reel could I refill it myself using my woolly nylon IT or would I have to buy a refill? If I do need a refill any ideas how much?
Thanks a lot.

if you have thread, why get an itr?
I would sugest that you invest in the Leclair dvd, which will teach you how to use loose IT.

However, yes. you can use your stuff on it, but in all probability,the reffiling will screw up the reel.

Thanks for that daleshrimpton.
By the way the DVD you recommend what sort of effects does it cover please?

all sorts. animations, levitations, all sorts. as well as tipson stripping,and storing the stuff.

ITR's are all pretty much a pain in the behind, absolutly wonderful in theory. Can work beautifully but most end up in the back of a drawer behind the socks because eventually you will find working with the stuff loose is easier.

That being said I am a fan of the Taurantuala. And before I get a hundred posts telling me it is c'not the best'. I am going to say like all ITR's it is a pain in the bottom at times. But for the most part I really enjoy it. And no I don't do the ring spinning onto the finger. I use it like Fearsons floating cig, only without the hassle of it always being there I can position it on the fly..or the spider...whatever.

I also have one that is built into a watch, which I have a love hate relationship with. It really is tempermental but I can't let go of the idea.

For a time I used a Humming Bird reel till I found that body hookups worked much much better for me. As for the types of material used in these, WN or Kev it depends on what you are doing with it. WN has greater flexibility so if your levitating something on a horizonal plain then it works best. Kev has a greater tensile strength so you can use it for heaver objects on a horizontal plain. I also have to disagree with the reels usually winding up in a magicians sock drawer. Mine has been in my wife's sock drawer for last 5 or so years not mine

Thank you all guys,
I will check out the DVD, and I might get an ITR, but I don't really want to pay for new thread each time it snaps, especially since I have loads of the stuff. Does anyone know an ITR that you can load the thread on yourself if you have it like I do when it snaps? I am guessing not but I'm asking just in case,
Thanks all.

you do know that when the it Breaks,you just reel out more?You dont use it all once. they hold many,many, feet.
And it tends to break an inch or so fromthe fixing point.

Yes I did know but I want something that will last me years of practice and performing. That is why I bought so much IT (1km no joke 1KM). I currently have Steve Fearson's Ultimate Levitation System, using the Fearson Hookup, but I find that after performing I find it hard to ditch/reattach the wax without being seen so I was looking for an ITR because, as we all know, the ITR when let go draws the IT out the way. So to make the ITR last for a long time I was hoping that I could refill it with IT from my supply.
Any suggestions regarding anything to do with IT will be gratefully received and thank you all so far.

If you are having issues with the feerson, the Leclare will help you out.

Big Tip.....
If you are going touse this a lot, then get 2 ITRs, and when one breaks ( and it will) you can still carry on till you can get a couple of minutes to re thread.

If you use up all the IT on your ITR you can take it apart and load your own thread on to the central spindle.

However, I suspect it would be a bit fiddly to do and you would need to find a method of winding the thread on easily (maybe adding a handle of some kind to the spindle ?).

The inventor of the Thread Boss, James George, mentions on the Michael Ammar IT videos that all the early ITRs had their IT wound on by hand.

Kevin Cann wrote:If you use up all the IT on your ITR you can take it apart and load your own thread on to the central spindle.

However, I suspect it would be a bit fiddly to do and you would need to find a method of winding the thread on easily (maybe adding a handle of some kind to the spindle ?).

The inventor of the Thread Boss, James George, mentions on the Michael Ammar IT videos that all the early ITRs had their IT wound on by hand.

If you are using a standard ITR reel, not that I'm sure what 'standard' is anymore, but something like the boss, or the pen reels or well it kind of looks like a tube with a spindle in the middle then you can easily re-load it with the stuff you have. Be warned do not reload it around children as the process does require much swearing.

And yes, I've been known to reload by hand. But then I once found the stuff already in its seperated form. then I just attached one end to the wall with a piece of tape, I stood on the opposite end of the room and went on a very slow tedius walk.

Was it worth it? I'm going to have to say no.

thanks a lot for that. I guessed it would be possible but a real pain. I might get an ITR but I'm not convinced yet.

Another question: I already own Ultimate Levitation System by Steve Fearson but I am thinking of getting Who's scared of IT by LeClair.

Can anyone tell me whether or not it is worth it since I have the ULS???
The reason why I want it is because I am not to keen on the Fearson Hookup but I do like his Ultimate System with the FU gimmick. Would LeClair give me much more, knowledge wise, or would it be quite similar??? Also is it mainly a hookup that he teaches and if so is it easy to discard the wax and move on to another trick???

Sorry for all the questions but I don't want to waste my money and any response is welcome.
Thanks all.

iv'e researched quite a few hook ups,and the leclair is the simplest.

topitmagic wrote:thanks a lot for that. I am thinking of getting Who's scared of IT by LeClair.

Can anyone tell me whether or not it is worth it

I have it and it's very good. He teaches the hook up, how to harvest your own IT and plenty of tricks. I haven't seen Steve Fearson's DVD so can't compare but I know the hook up and LeClair's is much simpler.

As to the loading and ditching of the wax - you have to routine it well but if doing table hopping or walkaround you should have enough cover to do both