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There are SO many of these out there - im looking for a really strong one that will allow for a stable rip away at the end.

any suggestions? I have found the following to be of interest...

http://www.magicbox.uk.com/executive-pen-thro.html
http://www.magicbox.uk.com/perfect-pen-original.html
http://www.magicbox.uk.com/sharpie-thru-banknote.html

Thanks!
alex

Just remember that, generally, you get what you pay for.

Probably advise going into a magic shop and having a look at them before you buy. Also, choose one that fits your style - a street performer like Dynamo might look a bit odd pulling out a gold Parker pen...

I remember reading in this forum, a few months ago, the personal story of a magician who tried to use such a pen - only to discover many around the tables were familiar with the concept from their toystores or someplace else. It pretty much became a laughing stock gimmick.

I don't know which method / gimmick is best for the task, but you might want to bear that in mind.

Dup.

That sucker was me.I learned the hard way.The worst thing about it is that it has an astounding effect on people.

Don't learn the hard way.Don't perform jokeshop tricks

If youre looking for a good note penetration, Id say that Misled is a pretty good bet - vid of Copperfield doing it if you dont know it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoMl_UZjgqo

Buy here:
http://www.world-of-magic.co.uk/Misled_by_Timothy_Wenk__i247.asp

Flood -
At least your bad experience may help somebody else now. Although history does tend to repeat itself...

Flood, if you dont mind me asking, whos penetration technique did you use ?

Ultimatecreate - I use Doug Edwards Wonder Penetration. Its made by Tannens. Magicbox used to stock them but Im not sure if they still do. The gimmick is strong and will work for any type of penetration/pull-out. Mine cost me £30 about 10 years ago and still works great.

jim

I just checked the links you provided and the information Magicbox has put up is confusing. First it says in the description of the Executive Pen Through that it is completely examinable, yet at the right hand side of the page under 'vital statistics' it says its not examinable.
Then for the sharpie version it says under 'vital statistics' that its examinable - unless its a new version, its not examinable without a switch

jim

thanks guys - appreciate the feedback.

Jim - i know, magicbox seems to be confusing me. I'd pick up the exec pen, but seems to be out of stock...

jim ferguson wrote:Flood, if you dont mind me asking, whos penetration technique did you use ?

Ultimatecreate - I use Doug Edwards Wonder Penetration. Its made by Tannens. Magicbox used to stock them but Im not sure if they still do. The gimmick is strong and will work for any type of penetration/pull-out. Mine cost me £30 about 10 years ago and still works great.

jim

It's was a trick I bought years ago made by jean pierre vallarino.It's pretty much a black pen with the attatchment.When I performed this the lads knew it was a trick pen they found at jokeshop.Even though I ditched the gimmick without them seeing they still knew.Why do you ask?

I was just wondering if it was perhaps the penetration technique they recognised. Do you know whos routine it is that comes with the joke shop version ?
It would be a shame to have to stop using this as its a great effect.

Ive always believed that the actual penetration of the bill is the most important part of this. Both the attitude of the performer and the actual technique at this point is very important. It is pivitol to the performance that the audience really believe that the pen has penetrated the bill. Yet I have seen many folk use poor technique (please dont take this to mean that you did), and for some reason put the penetration across as part of the magic, like its a magical effect.
The rip gimmick can also be a nice convincer.

Perhaps its just a case of using better technique etc, like we do with the tt ?

jim

jim ferguson wrote:I just checked the links you provided and the information Magicbox has put up is confusing. First it says in the description of the Executive Pen Through that it is completely examinable, yet at the right hand side of the page under 'vital statistics' it says its not examinable.
Then for the sharpie version it says under 'vital statistics' that its examinable - unless its a new version, its not examinable without a switch

jim

Just because the audience get to examine a pen doesnt mean that the pen is examinable . I think I read somewhere that executive comes with an identical ungimmicked pen, so that it can be examined, but the gimmick isnt examinable

I may have got the wrong trick though, so dont quote me on that!

spooneythegoon wrote:Just because the audience get to examine a pen doesnt mean that the pen is examinable

Dont you mean handle They can certainly handle an un-examminable prop but I dont think they could examine it

jim

Let them examine a normal pen first in a previous trick where they use it to sign something, then do the switch and as far as they're concerned it's the same pen they've seen and used so it can't be gaffed.

Misled is great, but folks don't use pencils anymore.