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Tomo wrote:Misschien een beetje, maar ik ben vreemdgaan. In een moment zal iemand ons adviseren om een ​​kamer te krijgen.

Is that wishful thinking?

Also, to stay on topic: Websense is rather bad and nonsensical!

Hoop dat u plezier hebt!

I agree, sometimes these buckshot style filters act like a puritanical old maid!

And this is how the Dutch will eventually rule the world!

I mean, hi.

In my day-job one of the things I look after is a Websense mail filter and I can assure you the problems you get with the web filter are nothing compared to releasing lord knows how many mails because a word has been incorrectly flagged as derogatory or profane. Context is a wonderful thing, unfortunately Websense has no sense of it, thus innocent phrases trap mails.

Heckler wrote:In my day-job one of the things I look after is a Websense mail filter and I can assure you the problems you get with the web filter are nothing compared to releasing lord knows how many mails because a word has been incorrectly flagged as derogatory or profane. Context is a wonderful thing, unfortunately Websense has no sense of it, thus innocent phrases trap mails.

Web Nonsense would be a better name for it

So, how does the technology (if we can call it that) work? You feed it single words and if the site or email features the word, it gets blocked? Or am I misunderstanding?

Madelon Hoedt wrote:So, how does the technology (if we can call it that) work? You feed it single words and if the site or email features the word, it gets blocked? Or am I misunderstanding?

I seem to remember that it uses a weird statistical technique that looks at the frequency and proximity of words. It's fairly prone to false positives, like a lot of statistical filtering proxies. A well trained neural network would probably be better, but quite expensive.

Tomo wrote:I seem to remember that it uses a weird statistical technique that looks at the frequency and proximity of words. It's fairly prone to false positives, like a lot of statistical filtering proxies. A well trained neural network would probably be better, but quite expensive.

Yep, I believe it scores websites based on words used and when a score is reached it is blocked.

Thanks, both. I was wondering whether the system was plain stupid. Judging from your explanation, it was trying to be smart, but failed horribly (as so many of these things are)...

Madelon Hoedt wrote:Thanks, both. I was wondering whether the system was plain stupid. Judging from your explanation, it was trying to be smart, but failed horribly (as so many of these things are)...

I think that's the central problem. It's trying to do a complex, intelligent job using an algorithm that needs training by complaint!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but with many IT solutions there seems to be this 'trying to be smart, but not really managing' trend, especially within large government organisations. (then again, very little works within large government organisations )

When I was in hospital about two years ago, the Disturbing Auctions forum (practically my virtual family) was banned from the hospital-accessible websites because it was "not up to our minimum standards of taste". Which is a fair enough assessment of the site, to be honest, but made everyone laugh.

set yourself up an external Proxy server - boom, away you go, magic and work at the same time!