A basic question about mentalism

Struggling with an effect? Any tips (without giving too much away!) you'd like to share?

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Postby Tomo » Jun 19th, '11, 11:33



Lady of Mystery wrote:The Karl Fulves biok is a great book to get you going, its full of easy to do effects that don't really need anything special at all.

I wholeheartedly agree. A quick Amazon search shows this superb little book for sale at just £3.70. It's the price of a pint of nasty lager in a trendy bar. Just five effects from the 60 or so it contains is enough. Knock yourself out.

[faces camera in a Jerry Springer stylee]Let's face it, the techniques used in mentalism tend to be quite basic. The focus is on presentation, not the methods, which is good because even less physically able performers can quickly get results. Try to explore new avenues, however, and some pompous, self-appointed windbag, spouting easy lies like "90%", will try to tell the world that none of your stuff works - until, of course, you get a good review or he sees it work. Suddenly, he's all over you like a cheap rash, as cc100 will discover if he ever publishes. So, maybe the most important thing in mentalism is a bottle of calamine lotion for the itching :wink:

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Postby Craig Browning » Jun 19th, '11, 14:19

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Craig Browning wrote:blah blah blah. something not many people actually paid attention to


And why was this every necessary?

Truth is, a hell of a lot more people actually listen and respect what I say vs. what some of the one forum VIPs would like folks to think around here (the green slime pit, not counting as a forum in that it's viewed as being a marketing resource by most -- a place to pander to the kiddies)

You may want to ponder why this is the ONLY forum where folks host a negative image of me. Even the slime pit has more than a few dozen folks that have screamed at the management for not allowing me to be part of their party in that I GIVE AWAY tons of information asking little to nothing in return.

I gave away too much on this forum it would seem, given the lack of appreciation that shown by those that once applauded all I gave them with no strings attached.

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Postby Duplicity » Jun 19th, '11, 15:18

Is it because that you come across as hugely egotistical and the majority of people here are from the UK? Therefore, ego and your pith and vinegar style delivery causes much annoyance? Though saying that - there are some people on here with crippling egos (not just you).

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Postby TonyB » Jun 19th, '11, 23:38

I have often disagreed with Craig's views, but I find his posts informative and useful. There is a voice of experience there. And even if we agree with you that he is hugely egotistical, in what way is that a flaw?

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Postby Duplicity » Jun 20th, '11, 12:52

TonyB wrote:I have often disagreed with Craig's views, but I find his posts informative and useful. There is a voice of experience there. And even if we agree with you that he is hugely egotistical, in what way is that a flaw?


If you see that displaying a very large ego as not being a flaw, then I believe you have answered your own question.

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Postby Craig Browning » Jun 20th, '11, 13:51

First off, any theater teacher is going to tell you that if you don't have a strong ego, you ain't gonna make it in show biz. Secondly, I've yet to meet a genuine "artist" performance or otherwise, that didn't have an ego. . . or at minimum, come off a bit smug. . . and from the U.S. perspective, there's lot's of UK acts that do just that. . . a friend of mine that was recently visiting over there couldn't believe how much ego oozed from a handful of self-important lots who couldn't get their tricks to work when it was time or worse, they came off as a kiddie-party styled performer while believing themselves a world-class Mentalist (his descriptions not mine).

Secondly, I'm tame compared to most of the teachers I've had over the years. Vernon used to crack people's knuckles with his wand for doing stupid things, Kirkham was known to slap you up back of the head and given his temper, things could get to be a bit more of a row. I won't even get into how short things were working in a real carney joint and side show or how cold the Teamsters could get. In other words, the real world is tough and direct and not a place for dreamers and those with fantasies as to what it's like in said world. It's dog eat dog and you must always be on guard when it comes to protecting your gigs; first, there's those weekend warrior sorts that will gladly undercut your fees and cause a breach of agreement with a client by doing a show at a fraction of the rate. . . this is probably the biggest pain in the hind-side pros must deal with followed by the less honorable pros that will do the same sort of thing but in ways that are more encompassing. This is typically a "Production Company" that can bring more to the table than an independent showman. So once again, we find a reason why some people in this industry get short -- preachy and defensive, which can come off as "arrogant" but there is one other factor -- EXPERIENCE. Contrary to rumors spread in this particular forum, that's one thing I do have (4 decades worth at minimum) and on top of that particular heep, is my work with and succession to the actual Thurston-Rock Legacy with a huge chunk of Dante's & Blackstone, Sr's collections tied to it by proxy. I'd think being named the key successor to such a legacy speaks rather strongly even though we were forced to sell the inventory in order to cover medical costs around my Mentor and his wife's illnesses. Nonetheless, I have hands on knowledge on that equipment which very few people can claim. That's before we get into my role with Creative Illusion and various performers as an effect designer and routine choreographer for which I've won personal as well a team related accolades. In other words, I've got more than a few logical reasons for coming off with a bit of authority and "ego".

I do not mean to "talk down" to people though I do intend to challenge folks to THINK and think things through. I want to encourage them to not take the short-cuts and expect more of themselves -- I want to see US improve the horrid reputation magic & magicians have in the eyes of the laity. That's my only agenda and why I call a pile of sh** -- SH**.

I do not claim to be any kind of "mega star". . . though I'm a solid showman, I'm better known as a technician and developer. I'm a working stiff that's served as a warehouseman in the Blackstone warehouse and that of others. I've had some very excellent chapters in my life when I made more money that most can imagine and likewise gone long years without, it's how any business goes and more so when you lack business savvy, which I do.

I'd like to thank TonyB for his comments, I never realized he understood things about me so well. :wink:

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Postby Lawrence » Jun 20th, '11, 16:25

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