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good morning, and what a fine one it is..

ive been working on a new effect but im stuck on the 2nd phase of it., this is what it is so far..

1, 6 coloured cards are introduced to the table and set out in a row.
2. i explain that we all have a guilty concience that we cant shake off when we do something wrong at one time or another.
3. so i ask them to turn anyone of the coloured cards over while my bak is turned, the cards are gathered up and i turn around.
4. im handed the cards i mix them and lay them in a row back down on the table,
5. i now tell the spectator to completley forget about what colour he chose and forget what position it was in.
6. i take his his hand and start to hover along the row of colours (a kind of muscle reading palava ) .
7. obviously i find the colour he chose, i then go one step further and have all the colours placed inside envelopes....

.............and thats where im a bit stuck... i couldnt find a plausible way of now revealing his coloured card - i know where it is but how do i eliminate the rest of the envelopes in a plausible manner... as they already think by the first stage that i found their card by some kind of body reading??

i was thinking one way , when i get down to the last 3 envelopes was have him to peek inside , then i would ask him is his card in this envelope , and each time he would have to say yes, and by that "sound reading" i could see which really envelope it 's in..

your help would be greatly appreciated... thankyou.

I don't quite follow you on your step 4. If one card is turned over and you've been giving the cards back to mix them up, won't you be able to tell which card is turned over? Especially when you lay them back down in a row on the table?

Becky (Lady of Mystery) has done alot of work on this type of thing with her Soothsayers Envelope, and may be able to help with your presentation.

jim

nickmadsen wrote:I don't quite follow you on your step 4. If one card is turned over and you've been giving the cards back to mix them up, won't you be able to tell which card is turned over? Especially when you lay them back down in a row on the table?

It depends which cards he is using. I had a set of coloured cards years ago which would work in this effect. The cards were coloured on both sides and looked the same when turned over. The cards were gimmicked and worked on a very clever principle that was virtually undetectible.

jim

Have him find his own card. You have 3 envelopes, you know which is his. Equivoque once or twice and you're done.

Hand me any two envelopes, focus on your colour.

If they leave their one, job done. Put the two aside. Ask them to announce their colour first then open the envelope.

If they hand you their one. Ask them to put the envelope on the table with the rest and to select one of your hands.

If they touch their colour, put the other one on the pile. If they touch the other, ask they do so, ask them to pop it on top of the rest.

Done.

I realize I am very critical when it comes to mentalism type effects because I find they go on way to long (for the most part). So....

Where you lost me is that you already know what colour the spectator chose, so why are you now putting the cards in the envelopes? Why not simply reveal the card?

If after the first phase you have not revealed the card and are trying to make the reveal more amazing by now putting the cards in enevelopes I think this is a mistake. I think just reading the persons body language or whatever your patter is will be stronger than turning it into a magic trick by putting the cards in envelopes.

If you have led them to believe that you know the card due to body language there is no point to now put the cards in envelopes, just tell them what it is. If you have told them what it is and the envelopes plot is just there to make another reveal of the same card then the whole premise becomes suspect because why else would you introduce the envelopes?

Of course, without seeing the routine in question this post may be utterly useless because there may be a very good reason for the envelopes you just have not told us what that is.