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YouTube have added a new feature where you can slow down videos by 1/4 which will make it easier for people to work out any trick, what a shame.

Then hide the method already!

And the only ones who are going to actually care are the magicians. Lay people will not bother.

Most YouTube "magicians" give away the sleight without the need of 1/4 speed so I do no think it will really be that big a deal.

Most of these teenages who "perform" their shop brought tricks do such a crappy job anyway that they're giving away the secret in the first place. Personally, I think those kind of videos should be banned under some kind of copyright law. A video of a performance to real people is great, you can be slightly misdirected still and guage how well the person performs as well as how effective the effect is. When these kids do it directly to their webcams all of that is lost. I'm against that. Don't hate youtube, hate these "magicians".

Even at 1/4 speed I'd dare you to try and catch me doing a sleight

I think there was a similar debate raised when video recorders became common place in the 1980's.
If you want to hide your sleights, do a Dynamo and heavily edit your videos!

magicollie wrote:YouTube have added a new feature where you can slow down videos by 1/4 which will make it easier for people to work out any trick, what a shame.

It's not as bad as when *some* people post outright exposure videos...

Whats the difference between me watching and learning a slight from Youtube or buying the royal road to card magic? Just money?

Mancunian Lee wrote:Whats the difference between me watching and learning a slight from Youtube or buying the royal road to card magic? Just money?

The number of sleights on YouTube that are done badly or just plain wrong is genuinely amazing, I suspect because the people have learned from other badly done YouTube 'tutorials'. So the difference is, you can read how to do it right or you can watch someone perform it wrong.

Im not convinced it bothers people because of the quality on offer.

The problem with youtube and people giving stuff away for free is too often the content is not theirs. If, for example, someone purchases a trick off Ellusionist and posts it on youtube as a "revealed" or even just done poorly thereby revealing the method, the gig is up and the creator loses income for their work. Thoughts and judgement about Ellusionist is one thing but someone's work is their work. To use two examples - Jerry Sadowitz and Prince (though less so lately) are two people who pull down their stuff from youtube as fast as it appears. People complain but what right does some anonymous person behind a computer have to distribute the work of another?

The internet has given too many people a sense of entitlement to everything and that they should be allowed to have what they want for free. Youtube is an amazing tool for promoting your own work and many people have carved careers out for themselves thanks to youtube. It's great it that way but people should respect others' work.

I've seen cases where people have even ripped a video off youtube, added their own logo and then reuploaded it. WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!?

Indeed. Those who post the content are responsible, not YouTube or (dare I say it, magicollie) Flixya.
Wow, the irony is strong...
You should probably remove some of those videos before someone accuses you of hypocrisy

me_simon wrote:The problem with youtube and people giving stuff away for free is too often the content is not theirs. If, for example, someone purchases a trick off Ellusionist and posts it on youtube as a "revealed" or even just done poorly thereby revealing the method, the gig is up and the creator loses income for their work. Thoughts and judgement about Ellusionist is one thing but someone's work is their work. To use two examples - Jerry Sadowitz and Prince (though less so lately) are two people who pull down their stuff from youtube as fast as it appears. People complain but what right does some anonymous person behind a computer have to distribute the work of another?

The internet has given too many people a sense of entitlement to everything and that they should be allowed to have what they want for free. Youtube is an amazing tool for promoting your own work and many people have carved careers out for themselves thanks to youtube. It's great it that way but people should respect others' work.

I've seen cases where people have even ripped a video off youtube, added their own logo and then reuploaded it. WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!?

You have hit the nail on the head, thats a far more honest post!

Personally I know its wrong to pass stuff off as your own but I dont really have a problem with it, id lose any respect for anyone I know who is doing it though but for some reason it just doesnt bother me one bit. Probably because ive got nothing work nicking myself.

What does bother me is that its peoples livelihoods that are missing out, people are finding it harder and harder to make a living from what they love because of it, whether it be making money from selling a magic trick or selling music. It means more commercial stuff is selling loads and more niche stuff isnt getting released. Big shame imo.

There are plus sides though, it makes better magicians look better and forces c*** (not the best) ones to be more creative imo.

Mancunian Lee wrote:It means more commercial stuff is selling loads and more niche stuff isnt getting released.

Nonsense. In music especially the niche bands have embraced the modern era and used it to their advantage. Magic just huffs, puffs and has a bloomin' tantrum.

The rest of what you said, I totally agree with. I don't really care because its only a bloody magic trick.