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Hi everyone,

I have been performing the routine below for a long time now in my walk around routine and it always get a good reaction. I would love to hear what everyone here thinks of it and if you think I can improve the routine in some way, thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IY2k8Mf4S4

Very smooth and well performed. I guess to me, but probably this is just because I'm a magicain, you are touching the cards to the deck too often, of course to get the double lifts, but I think it looks suspisous when you take a tabled card, then place it on the deck before turning it over, the natural thing would just be to turn it over, that's my major beef with the DL, it's got it's place, but things like that are definatly flawes with the move.

As for the routine though, I'm sure it's great with normal audiances and like I said the stuff I mentioned is probably because I know what to look for. Well done.

hds02115 wrote:Very smooth and well performed. I guess to me, but probably this is just because I'm a magicain, you are touching the cards to the deck too often, of course to get the double lifts, but I think it looks suspisous when you take a tabled card, then place it on the deck before turning it over, the natural thing would just be to turn it over, that's my major beef with the DL, it's got it's place, but things like that are definatly flawes with the move.

As for the routine though, I'm sure it's great with normal audiances and like I said the stuff I mentioned is probably because I know what to look for. Well done.

Thanks for the advice. For the past couple of weeks I have gone straight from them saying stop into the DL from the top of the deck without placing the card on the table which seems very natural, thanks again.

nicely performed...... as hds says as a magician its easy to spot your DL's.... but no laymen would ever spot them as you handle the cards very well!!

one thing i would say is that when you show the cards with differnt sigs on at the end before combining them...... granted i know the move, but it seemed very suspect to me and i dont know wether laymen would spot that to be honest.

but overall raelly nicely performed bud!!!

I too applaud you trying to come up with something original and very brave to share it too.

Few things.

I like that it is impromptu.

Overall, I don't like fusing two tricks into one. Ambitious Card doesn't need to be ended with another trick, doesn't need card to wallet, card to wherever or anniversary waltz.

Anniversary Waltz is a beautiful trick on its own. It's perfect. Simple, direct, powerful and an AMAZING leave behind. I have been to people's houses I've performed that for and they still have the card on a pin board or the fridge years after.

If we agree that the only reason to change a classic trick is to improve it, I fail to see what the improvement is here, aside from the fact that you do away with the DF card. Now, to me, that doubler facer they are left with is one of the strong points of the routine.

Your get ready for your doubles is unnatural, imho. And you do it a lot. It just looks suspicious. I prefer just to toy with the cards and spread them out, square them and get the double. For the double off the bottom, I'd prefer a pinky pull down.

Not sure about the flicking of the card you do repeatedly when you are holding the two cards? I know you are trying to establish a funny thing as normal before you do the move, but if you do that, you need to do it throughout, not just before.

Overall though, slow down. You seem to rush, and that creates a sense of confusion.

Well done for being creative and for sharing though. I'd love to see you original ideas, rather than fusing existing effects.

Dye Vernon wrote:I too applaud you trying to come up with something original and very brave to share it too.

Few things.

I like that it is impromptu.

Overall, I don't like fusing two tricks into one. Ambitious Card doesn't need to be ended with another trick, doesn't need card to wallet, card to wherever or anniversary waltz.

Anniversary Waltz is a beautiful trick on its own. It's perfect. Simple, direct, powerful and an AMAZING leave behind. I have been to people's houses I've performed that for and they still have the card on a pin board or the fridge years after.

If we agree that the only reason to change a classic trick is to improve it, I fail to see what the improvement is here, aside from the fact that you do away with the DF card. Now, to me, that doubler facer they are left with is one of the strong points of the routine.

Your get ready for your doubles is unnatural, imho. And you do it a lot. It just looks suspicious. I prefer just to toy with the cards and spread them out, square them and get the double. For the double off the bottom, I'd prefer a pinky pull down.

Not sure about the flicking of the card you do repeatedly when you are holding the two cards? I know you are trying to establish a funny thing as normal before you do the move, but if you do that, you need to do it throughout, not just before.

Overall though, slow down. You seem to rush, and that creates a sense of confusion.

Well done for being creative and for sharing though. I'd love to see you original ideas, rather than fusing existing effects.

Thank you but the reason I perform this at the end of my ambitious card routine is because there is already a signature on one of the cards. I wouldn't say that this is an improvement is any sort of way to the original, its just a variation which can be done with a normal pack. I agree that the double face card does take the routine to another level but this still make a great souvenir. I will try and work on my double, thank you. Thanks for the advice, really do appreciate it. If you want to check out any other original tricks, then please look at the other videos on my channel as every trick on my channel is either my variation on a classic or a new trick I have come up with, thank you.

Dye Vernon wrote:Overall, I don't like fusing two tricks into one.

Why? It takes a trick and turns it into a routine. Your spectators aren't going to thing, "Ah, he's now finished an ambitious card and is now doing anniversary waltz" I'm not a fan of Ambitious card routines but I would say that these fit together well and wouldn't have an awkward transition. All I'm saying is perhaps you Dye should re-consider your stance on creating routines out of different effects.

Very impressive

Have only just started practicing my own ACR and have been thinking of different finishes and this is quite splendid

Just for information's sake; Jim Pace published a similar routine (a fusion plot with normal cards) in the book The Restaurant Worker's Handbook (I think it was called!) in 1996 - the routine is called Two Hearts Beat as One. Starts with an ambitious routine, the back of the card is signed by the man and then the signature is shown to be on the back of the woman's card.

A long time ago I used this in restaurants, maybe I'll dig it out again

As for the lineage of the plot; Doc's version is a handling of the Chris Carter routine. The originator of the fusion plot is either Wes James or Richard Kaufman, depending on who you know best...

hds02115 wrote:

Dye Vernon wrote:Overall, I don't like fusing two tricks into one.

Why? It takes a trick and turns it into a routine.

I am afraid, with the greatest of respect, I disagree.

A routine, by my understanding, is where you take a variety of tricks, and make them flow nicely/logically/theatrically. See Doc Eason's bar magic with his card under glass as an example of routining different together.

What is happening here is that the OP cannot find a climax to ambitious card he likes, so is ending it with another trick.

If he had done ambitious card. Stopped. Then done Anniversary Waltz that would be a routine. As it is, he is 'mashing up', as I believe dem yout say, two tricks into one.

However, semantics, really.

The point I am trying to make is Ambitious Card is one of the best tricks in magic. It is without doubt my most requested effect. Anniversary Waltz is beautiful if you do it at the right occasion. Fusing the two into one effect doesn't improve either effects. IMHO, YMMV ETC.

I've not seen the Anniversary waltz before. I'm a beginner and though I could follow most of it, especially when you are displaying the 2 at the end, it looked really good. I only followed the DL's because that's what it had to be to get that effect, I don't think they looked suspicious. Of course I'm only a beginner so I don't know what I'm talking about, but that's the kind of viewpoint you need! The only thing is, if 2 people sign it, who gets to keep it at the end??

Edit: I just watched some other videos of the trick (I was trying to find some, that's how I came across yours!) and I actually prefer the way you can see the cards fuse in your version,