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Lots of gaffed cards can be found here too: http://www.magicbycardmaker.com/pageID_5491053.html

Have fun!

A good alternative to printed cards can be found here too: "STICK a PIP"
at http://www.magic-frediup.com/magicshop/index.php?language=en

thebigcheese wrote:I think it all boils down to who you perform things too! Generally speaking, looking at the demo's-the deck is marketed to performing it to gullable USA school kids. I imagine most of this forum wont be doing that on too regular a basis!

I only use those strange gaffs when in Yorkshire. It slaughters the locals.

Okay, I'll swim against the stream here since noone else seems to want to do so...

Any magic that you do has nothing to do with the gaffes involved. For example, and since it's been brought up, the moving pip:

You show the card openly, then put your thumb on the pip and move it to another spot. They see the card, they see no change, but you put your thumb on it and move it. Then, you put your thumb over the next pip and move it down to the others...They are watching the whole time, but the card is obviously not gaffed, even though it is a rather odd looking card.

Then, under their scrutiny, you do it yet again!

At this point, you've moved three pips down to the fourth and hand them the card to examine. It is obviously not a special card, even though it is rather wierd looking.

Can you not come up with a good presentation for that effect? Can you not come up with a reason that these cards are odd looking or special? Particularly if you can hand that card to them at any time during the routine and nothing is there to find?

I think that I can.

"The true skill of the magician is in the skill he exhibits in influencing the spectator's mind. This is not a thing of mechanics. It is not a thing of digital dexterity. It is entirely a thing of psychological attack. It is completely a thing of controlling the spectator's thinking. Control of the perceptive faculties has nothing whatever to do with it. Convincingly interpreting, to the spectator, what the senses bring to him, in such a way that the magician's objectives are accomplished, is the true skill of the skilled magician." -Dariel Fitzkee- ("Magic by Misdirection")

On a side note - I'd never buy any of the gaffed cards in question myself. But, that isn't to say that a truly creative individual cannot make good and magical use of them.

Mike.

I'd personally prefer to just use an ordinary deck of cards whenever possible. But then when I do card tricks its usually for the kids at school or else at poker night, so if start getting different cards to by usual ones they can guess something is up. I think there is a better element of magic if the cards are clearly untampered. Not massively fond of complicated arranged decks either as the audience can figure them out a bit too easily. Most of the gaff changes are exactly what has been stated, a bit naff.

However I will still carry on buying different sized packs of cards from the littlest cards through to nice big ones, even though they normally in no way affect the trick. Its the unusual factor that makes it interesting.

Always a regular deck for me, i have no interest in gaff cards they just dont appeal to me.

Though i am not saying they are no good iv seen some great reactions from spectators when gaffs are involved, i think gaffs are great in packet tricks. But always going to be a straight deck for me.

I often get asked that question, can i check those cards out, and i can always say of course you can, rather than worry about them finding some kind of crazy twelve headed king or something lurking in the deck.

abadidon wrote:A good alternative to printed cards can be found here too: "STICK a PIP"
at http://www.magic-frediup.com/magicshop/index.php?language=en

Does anyone know if these would adhere to the inside of a Bicycle box?

Without just rubbing off or flaking off?

Thank you!!!

I have some of these pips, when I first bought them I 'tested' them on various surfaces to see how well they would stick, including the outside and inside of a card box and found they stick firmly. They are made of what feels like a very thin vinyl and are semi-tacky (if you are very careful you can peel them off and re-use them)

If you are going to keep a deck of cards in the box you would have to be careful when you insert them into the box that the edge of the cards don't catch on the edge of the pip as it might peel back slightly. Though to be honest the pips adhere so firmly and are so thin that shouldn't be too much of a problem (though I haven't actually tried it, I removed the pip after testing it's attach-ability)

Thanks for that! I reckon I'll give it a go...

Hmm. Am a bit concerned about having to be careful.

Maybe I can put an opened out Bike box through my laser printer and print the pips on. Of course, it might get mangled up due to not being oblong. I've found a font with playing cards symbols:
http://www.dafont.com/search.php?psize= ... ying+cards

I never actually tried inserting the cards into the box with the pip stuck on as I removed it after, the pips are slightly raised so theoretically there is a chance they might catch but as I said the pips are very thin and stick firmly but they are expensive (£10:00p) I didn't want you buying them and then find you couldn't use them. I have used them to make gaffs and shuffling them overhand haven't had a problem with them so I presume you should be okay with the box thing.

If you are still interested you can find them here http://www.cards4magic.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh ... 4435#a4435 They seem to have run out of red diamonds and hearts.

The link didn't take you directly to it, there is sometimes a problem with their links, just type Stick a Pip in their search and you should find it.

Thanks for all of these insights, Pickman.

They are very expensive at a tenner a sheet! I think I'll risk it though. And I'd be able to do several boxes from one sheet so it's fine if it doesn't last forever.

No problem, I hope it works for you