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mark lewis wrote:Alec my boy, you will never gain promotion if you have a "can't be bothered" attitude. And if you indulge in that silly "street hypnosis" while walking the beat your career will most certainly be done for. At the moment you are a mere "trainee hypnotist". I am a fully qualified one therefore if I say there should be inverted commas then there should be. My word really is gospel in these matters. You really need to purchase my DVD course on the subject either from me directly or from lybrary.com in order to progress in your studies. And the most important thing to realise in "hypnosis" is that is a load of bunkum and THAT is the reason for the inverted commas. Accuracy in writing is very important and I do hope your written reports at work are conducted with this in mind.

Thank you for your personal opinion Mark.

As regards to others posts, there are some good questions being raised and it's nice being able to gain others people's perspectives of this.

Alec

It's an interesting sales technique Mark. Buy my dvd on this subject, which is actually a load of old bunkum...

mark lewis wrote:My word really is gospel in these matters. You really need to purchase my DVD course on the subject either from me directly or from lybrary.com in order to progress in your studies. And the most important thing to realise in "hypnosis" is that is a load of bunkum.

I'm thinking that once our Beloved leader Mark sobers up, we may see an edit button being pressed!

Alec trainee 'hypnotist' (when I 'hypnotise' people do I need to do that silly hand thing everytime I use the word??)

Laurence wrote:

mark lewis wrote:My word really is gospel in these matters. You really need to purchase my DVD course on the subject either from me directly or from lybrary.com in order to progress in your studies. And the most important thing to realise in "hypnosis" is that is a load of bunkum.

mark lewis wrote:I would prefer to call it self delusion but if you insist on calling it "hypnosis" at least use inverted commas.

My my, someone's been listening to Kreskin too long

Like NLP and other such ideas you will find those that want to contradict it (some folks just have to be the pea under the mattress). While stage hypnosis is about 99% B.S. and balls, there are those who have legit credentials in hypnosis that do take things a bit further in ways you cannot do with stage tactics. I know this mainly from talks with at least three of the best known pros going, Ormond McGill leading the way.

Anyone willing to endure any kind of surgery without some form of pain control is (first) nuts! and (secondly) has a higher pain tolerance than others. I worked around the S&M world for some time in my youth, I know "first hand" that some people have or can develop a higher level of pain tolerance than others, I've seen similar things in the Martial Arts world that goes a bit beyond broken glass and sword ladders. But my work around hypnotherapy (and I'm not claiming to be a hypnotist though I have some training) and more specifically the New Age environment, pretty much sustains the fact that there's a lot more to it than what some wish to diminish it to (and that's not just within the magic community, though there does seem to be a more extreme bias herein).

Hypnosis has had detractors for over a century now including religious nuts claiming that it's demonic and makes one open for possession and a list of other such silliness. There are tons of "urban legend" surrounding it as well as opinion, that's just how things like this -- the surreal -- gets treated.

I must inform young Alec that I do not indulge in the devil's buttermilk therefore there is no need for me to "sober up". And a note to Craig. I happen to know that Ormond McGill knew "hypnotism" was a load of old cobblers despite all the tosh he wrote in his books. As did Gil Boyne and in fact all the leading lights in this game. They just never admitted it publicly.

mark lewis wrote:I must inform young Alec that I do not indulge in the devil's buttermilk therefore there is no need for me to "sober up". And a note to Craig. I happen to know that Ormond McGill knew "hypnotism" was a load of old cobblers despite all the tosh he wrote in his books. As did Gil Boyne and in fact all the leading lights in this game. They just never admitted it publicly.

Well old Mark, i don't know why you are being so anti?!

You seem intent on trying to get an angry response from people who are contributing to this useful thread. Well allow me to inform you that at your age I would expect more class.

My mum who is both elderly and has class, always told me that if you have nothing nice to say......I'll allow you to fill in the blanks.

Alec

Alec Kobain wrote:Well old Mark, i don't know why you are being so anti?!

You seem intent on trying to get an angry response from people who are contributing to this useful thread. Well allow me to inform you that at your age I would expect more class.

My mum who is both elderly and has class, always told me that if you have nothing nice to say......I'll allow you to fill in the blanks.

Alec

Don't respond. It's what he wants.

[Very Strong Hint Mode On] So, getting back to the topic and keeping things sweet... [Very Strong Hint Mode Off]

As Mark agrees completely with me on "hypnosis" I suggest we take him at his word, and accept his opinion as gospel. It is an opinion shared by just about all the good hypnotists I have spoken to on the matter.

I interpreted mark's post as tongue-in-cheek, don't know why people are getting annoyed?

Quite right Tony. And even the ones who say they believe in it are not all telling the truth. I would say about 50% of the stage hypnotists who say they believe in it know perfectly well it is a load of tosh. If people honestly think that volunteers who talk the Martian language and make love to a broomstick are not aware exactly what they are doing then you must be in a bit of a trance yourself.

Please read what I posted earlier in the thread. I'm agreeing with what you are saying Old man. But it is still called hypnotism so therefore it exists.

Alec

mark lewis wrote:I must inform young Alec that I do not indulge in the devil's buttermilk therefore there is no need for me to "sober up". And a note to Craig. I happen to know that Ormond McGill knew "hypnotism" was a load of old cobblers despite all the tosh he wrote in his books. As did Gil Boyne and in fact all the leading lights in this game. They just never admitted it publicly.

So a man that wrote over 100 books in his life time, most of which were clinical studies on Hypnotherapy was full of c*** (not the best)? Let alone the volumes of clinical articles by Arnold Furst and others of the not so distant past.

Sorry Mark, I think your way off base on that one.