Help with ending of 'Oil and Water' by Derren Brown

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Help with ending of 'Oil and Water' by Derren Brown

Postby cc100 » Nov 24th, '11, 13:28



Hello,

I'm having a few problems with the ending of 'Oil and Water' described in The Devil's Picturebook. I performed it the other day just to see if I could do it, and the first part of the routine went really well. However, in the second half, the spectator picked 4 from one half and 1 from the other (anyone who has watched TDP will know what I mean). I tried doing the bottom deal move as in the first part of the routine, but it didn't convince the spectator. I said 'here are all the reds, and the other pile contains all the blacks'. The response was 'no they're not. Nice try though'.

So my question is: what count should I use if they pick four from one half and one from the other? Perhaps the bottom deal move for this is ok, and it was just hesitancy on my part in making the count. I was thinking of using the Hamman count instead, but then I'm not sure how I would spread the cards out showing that all the colours are together. I'm not bothered about intertwining the colours if they choose like this, I just want to convince them that they chose 5 cards of the same colour.

I hope I'm not exposing too much here. Mods - edit it if it's a problem. I think only people who have seen TDP will know what I mean though.

Thanks,

cc100

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Re: Help with ending of 'Oil and Water' by Derren Brown

Postby Lenoir » Nov 24th, '11, 13:30

Leaning the bottom deal properly would solve the problem. Put in a week weeks practice and make it look completely smooth and then try again?

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Re: Help with ending of 'Oil and Water' by Derren Brown

Postby cc100 » Nov 24th, '11, 13:42

Yeah, I might do that. I hadn't prepared for them choosing like they did, so I had to think on my feet a bit. That's probably why I wasn't smooth or relaxed enough when performing it. Cheers Lenoir.

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Re: Help with ending of 'Oil and Water' by Derren Brown

Postby Lenoir » Nov 24th, '11, 13:49

It's a real bar steward of a move to get right but so rewarding when you do! Good luck with.

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Re: Help with ending of 'Oil and Water' by Derren Brown

Postby DaveM » Nov 24th, '11, 14:32

It doesn't make much sense to spread the cards to show they are all the same colour again after you've already dealt the 2 piles out to do exactly that. I suppose you want to end clean though.

You could do the same move as at the start (where you spread and switch the 2 cards) so the 2 odd cards are back with their correct colour. This would involve you dealing them in the correct order beforehand (pile for left hand - odd card on top, pile for right hand - odd card on bottom), then You pick them up with their correct hand and spread and switch as you turn your hands inwards to display them fanned, the motion covering the switch and looking fairly natural.

Another way, end with the odd cards on top of the piles having just shown "they are all the same colour", put the piles on top of each other in your hand but keep a break under the top pile + top card of the bottom pile. Then tell them they can have a look and backslip the top card to the top of the bottom pile as you lift the top pile (now with top card of pile below) to show them.

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Re: Help with ending of 'Oil and Water' by Derren Brown

Postby hds02115 » Nov 24th, '11, 20:02

DaveM wrote:It doesn't make much sense to spread the cards to show they are all the same colour again after you've already dealt the 2 piles out to do exactly that. I suppose you want to end clean though.


If you see the routine you'll understand how it all fits together. It's a logical way to do things which flows nicely and does go down quite well.

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Re: Help with ending of 'Oil and Water' by Derren Brown

Postby DaveM » Nov 25th, '11, 00:09

hds02115 wrote:
DaveM wrote:It doesn't make much sense to spread the cards to show they are all the same colour again after you've already dealt the 2 piles out to do exactly that. I suppose you want to end clean though.


If you see the routine you'll understand how it all fits together. It's a logical way to do things which flows nicely and does go down quite well.


I know and have been practising the routine off the DVD recently, is yours different?

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