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Glueing card cases and cards - what kind of glue to use ??

Postby moonbeam » Mar 6th, '12, 22:48



Well, I decided to re-vamp my Extractor Deck, so I carefully dismantled, it in order to change the outer case. I used good ol' super glue to stick everything back together ...... BIG mistake lol :shock: . As soon as you drop a blob anywhere, it's virtually impossible to clean it off and to be honest, it's not too good at glueing card in my opinion.
Anyone have any recommendations as to what glue is best for glueing card ??

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Re: Glueing card cases and cards - what kind of glue to use

Postby Reverend Tristan » Mar 6th, '12, 23:24

moonbeam wrote:Well, I decided to re-vamp my Extractor Deck, so I carefully dismantled, it in order to change the outer case. I used good ol' super glue to stick everything back together ...... BIG mistake lol :shock: . As soon as you drop a blob anywhere, it's virtually impossible to clean it off and to be honest, it's not too good at glueing card in my opinion.
Anyone have any recommendations as to what glue is best for glueing card ??


I have found rubber cement or UHU works well for me :D

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Re: Glueing card cases and cards - what kind of glue to use

Postby Mandrake » Mar 6th, '12, 23:40

Blue Glue or Repositional Glue works well and gives a little time to ensure the pieces to be glued are lined up accurately. Try stationers, craft shops and Wlkinsons stores as they all seem to sell the stuff.

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Re: Glueing card cases and cards - what kind of glue to use

Postby moonbeam » Mar 7th, '12, 00:22

Mandrake wrote:Blue Glue or Repositional Glue works well

I thought repositional glue never dried properly, or am I getting confused with something else ??

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Re: Glueing card cases and cards - what kind of glue to use

Postby Mandrake » Mar 7th, '12, 00:39

moonbeam wrote:I thought repositional glue never dried properly, or am I getting confused with something else ??


Yes and No. If you bond the card together immediately it's a permanent thing. If you let the glue dry on both surfaces before putting one card on another it's temporary like a Post-It note. Blue Glue seems to also avoid the problems of bleed through which some glues have. My better half is into making greetings cards etc and there are all sorts of different adhesives in use, some are bog standard Pritt Stik or UHU/Bostik All Purpose types, others need to be acid free so as to not bleed through photos or vellum type papers. Glues ‘n stuff are quite an amazing science, so Mrs.M tells me!

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Re: Glueing card cases and cards - what kind of glue to use

Postby Allen Tipton » Mar 7th, '12, 20:06

Roy Johnson always recommended Evo Stick

I have always stuck (ouch!--one for Mandrake :) ) with UHU

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Postby Mandrake » Mar 7th, '12, 21:06

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Postby Allen Tipton » Mar 8th, '12, 00:12

Oh MANDRAKE--your deck is The ID !!!!

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Re: Glueing card cases and cards - what kind of glue to use

Postby Part-Timer » Mar 8th, '12, 14:24

Much as I hate to disagree with Mandrake (or is it Mandrake's missus - possibly even scarier than arguing with the main man himself), acid-free has nothing to do with the glue bleeding through. It relates to what happens over time. If a product is acid free, it can be used in things that are meant to last a long time (scrapbook pages, for example). If a glue is not acid-free, it may eventually cause decay and/or discolouration (or at least faster than this would occur normally). Many crafting-specific products are acid-free so that the scrapbooks or cards made using them will not get spoiled faster than normal.

Without knowing exactly what is involved in putting an Extractor back together (I have never needed to pull one apart), it's hard to make a recommendation. Wet glues (such as UHU) are usually stronger than glues that come in stick form. Epoxy glues are probably OTT for this sort of thing. My best guess for a suitable glue, which is also readily available, would be a tube of UHU.

You also need to consider drying times. If the parts of the Extractor will need to be held in place while drying, is this practical with a glue that has a long drying time? Can you use paper clips, paper strips, books etc. to hold the Extractor in place for a long time, or will this cause other marks? For this reason, it may be an idea to look at one of those glues that works by you putting a thin layer on the two surfaces that will be in contact, letting the glue dry, than placing the surfaces together (such as rubber cement - blue glue would not be permanent, as Mandrake explained).

Another thing you might want to use is crafting tape. You can get some extremely strong double-sided tape that can be used for putting cards together (the stuff crafters use often has a red acrylic backing "paper"). Because it is so strong, you might not want to try and stick everything down at once. You can only partly remove the backing "paper" when lining up the two pieces you want to stick together, leaving the removed bit of backing tape sticking out at the side. When you are happy that everything is lined up right, press down on the exposed sticky surface of the tape, then pull off the rest of the backing and stick down the remainder of the card. Try this technique on something else before using it on the Extractor!

The tape comes in a variety of widths and you won't have to worry about glue seeping out of the sides.

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Re: Glueing card cases and cards - what kind of glue to use

Postby Mandrake » Mar 8th, '12, 15:41

No worries about disagreeing with Mrs. M, I occasionally do so - but usually from somewhere in the next county to be on the safe side! Thanks for your input, all knowledge is useful and is duly noted!

My experience of adhesives is very much as an onlooker or, as it’s referred to in our household, ‘the one who pays for all this stuff’. I know that Vellums and other fragile or translucent papers do need careful thought before applying any adhesive, silicone 'glues' are usually the right choice in that case. Basic card stock needs only basic glues or even pastes. If I’m making up a think card from two thinner ones I usually use PVA adhesive which has been slightly thinned with water. The resulting laminated card will warp so after a few minutes I clamp it between two sheets of wood and apply pressure with a G Clamp for 24 hours or more if possible. Works well on playing cards which need flattening as well!

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Re: Glueing card cases and cards - what kind of glue to use

Postby Mandrake » Mar 8th, '12, 18:27

PS Double sided tape is excellent for sticking card boxes!

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Re: Glueing card cases and cards - what kind of glue to use

Postby Part-Timer » Mar 8th, '12, 22:43

Mandrake wrote:My experience of adhesives is very much as an onlooker or, as it’s referred to in our household, ‘the one who pays for all this stuff’. I know that Vellums and other fragile or translucent papers do need careful thought before applying any adhesive


They certainly do. The main problems with vellum are that it is translucent, and so the glue will show, and that a lot of glues will make the vellum wrinkle (probably why Mrs M uses silicone glue). You can actually get a special adhesive film for vellum. A bit off topic for card boxes, but possibly of interest to any bizarrists reading this!

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