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Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby johnnyryanUK » Aug 31st, '12, 16:21



I really do not have any real knowledge on hypnotism, i have read Derren Brown's tricks of the mind book on the little section on hypnotism and how you get your 'subject' as its called in a 'trance' (we all know a trance does no exist really!)

But to induce a sudden sleep state without any prior relaxation etc (on the spot street hypnotism sort of thing) is it easy to just do or does it require some kind of highly developed skill and technique with patter and timing.... and as well what starter book would you recommend for me to read and learn this instant sort of on the spot hypnosis as I feel it would add a nice touch to my performance!

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby A J Irving » Aug 31st, '12, 16:28

Reality is Plastic seems to be quite well recommended around here. There are a couple of comments on the review here: http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic26902.php?start=15

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby johnnyryanUK » Aug 31st, '12, 16:29

A J Irving wrote:Reality is Plastic seems to be quite well recommended around here. There are a couple of comments on the review here: http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic26902.php?start=15

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can u get reality is plastic in book form no?

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby A J Irving » Aug 31st, '12, 16:48

It looks like Alakazam still does it in book form so there are some hard copies still knocking around.

There are hundreds of hypnosis books around but it's really only worth going for the ones about stage hypnosis as its a different beast to what you'd get in something like Hypnosis for Dummies or the like. Deeper and Deeper by Jonathan Price is worth a look and if you've got the money and the upper body strength, you could always invest in Ormond McGill's Encyclopedia of Stage Hypnosis.

If you're really serious about it though, I've heard it's a lot like fencing and the Japanese Tea Ceremony in that you can only really get your head around it with personal tuition. :)

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby Jobasha » Aug 31st, '12, 19:36

If your looking to do street hypnotism you are probably going to be disappointed when hit with reality. There are a whole host of reasons not to go into detail of the dangers, ethical issues and legal issues of street hypnosis. Mainly I just object to the idea of street hypnosis. However if you want to learn a few basics for stage or parlour situation, some waking tests try Mark Lewis-introduction to stage hypnosis if you have a suitable ereader. Ormond McGill is well worth while. I've barely scraped the surface of the encyclopaedia and I've found enough to fill a 20 minute section of a night. It can go as cheap as £30 which for the sheer volume is a bargain. You may want to look instead at effects which give the appearance of hypnosis like Paul Voodini's hypno-card tricks or alchemy moons hypno-card

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Introduction-to ... 689&sr=8-1

http://www.readerofminds.co.uk/

http://www.alchemy-moon.co.uk/hypocard.htm

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby johnnyryanUK » Aug 31st, '12, 20:31

But i can't see how street hypnosis is as you say 'danger' if at the end of the day people still have free will when hypnotized and they won't do something completely lubricious. And are you basically saying I can't go up to people at uni and hypnotise them no?

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby Mandrake » Aug 31st, '12, 20:45

There needs to be an element of understanding and consent which couldn't be part of 'just walking up and hypnotising' anyone. Successful hypnosis relies on selecting the right subjects via earlier checks and tests such as sticky hands, pendulum work etc. Apart from that, bear in mind that many people are swift to enforce their human rights in very direct ways and may opt to resort to violence if approached by someone attempting to put them under!

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby Grimshaw » Aug 31st, '12, 22:12

If you're really serious about learning it invest in The Trilby Connection, Anthony Jacquin's DVD on effective street hypnotism. Here, he explains all the health and safety stuff, the approach, the set-pieces etc. Its pricey, at around £80 from the Head Hacking web site, but as I say, if you're serious about learning it, you'll pay it and you'll be thankful you did.

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby johnnyryanUK » Aug 31st, '12, 22:36

so is there no way to achieve a quick and easy way of learning street hypnotism then (ethical street hypnotism that is) ?

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby Grimshaw » Aug 31st, '12, 23:10

What's your rush? If something's worth doing.....etc etc youknowtherest

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby mark lewis » Sep 1st, '12, 03:09

You will find that stage hypnotists tend to look down with great disapproval on so-called "street hypnosis". But in any event hypnosis of any kind, whether on the stage or impromptu cannot be done without the co-operation of the subjects. It is impossible to hypnotise people against their will.

Yes. My little book mentioned above is a good introduction (to stage hypnosis only) and the price is certainly right. I only put it out as an introduction to my more in-depth course which is on lybrary.com here:

http://www.lybrary.com/mark-lewis-hypno ... 21284.html

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby johnnyryanUK » Sep 1st, '12, 13:49

I apologize for using the term 'street hypnotist' as I didn't mean it in the way I thought it was, when i say 'street hypnotist' what I mean is WITH the consent of family, friends or strangers and after asking about their willingness then to perform hypnotism on them in a safe and non embarassing manner

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby Tomo » Sep 1st, '12, 14:10

johnnyryanUK wrote:I really do not have any real knowledge on hypnotism, i have read Derren Brown's tricks of the mind book on the little section on hypnotism and how you get your 'subject' as its called in a 'trance' (we all know a trance does no exist really!)

You're a curious one. No real knowledge about hypnosis and yet sure trance doesn't exist. And yet, you experience it daily.

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby johnnyryanUK » Sep 2nd, '12, 01:58

Tomo wrote:
johnnyryanUK wrote:I really do not have any real knowledge on hypnotism, i have read Derren Brown's tricks of the mind book on the little section on hypnotism and how you get your 'subject' as its called in a 'trance' (we all know a trance does no exist really!)

You're a curious one. No real knowledge about hypnosis and yet sure trance doesn't exist. And yet, you experience it daily.

The basis I say trance doesn't exist comes from reading so called experts on hypnosis so to question them is to be ignorant to the reality that trance does that exist.

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Re: Hypnotism for a beginner

Postby mark lewis » Sep 2nd, '12, 03:12

Johnny. I have been doing "hypnotism" shows for many, many years and I don't think it exists either. And I am not the only one that thinks so. Some of the world's leading hypnotists, both therapeutic and stage hypnosis agree with me. And so do many psychologists. You actually have it right, experienced or not. For further information on this point of view you can read "They Call it Hypnosis" by Robert Baker.

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