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Its a variation, Oz said it in the DVD...I watched the DVD 4 times already and the part i am having a porblem is after you wswing the deck around and get you index finger inside, you are supposed to use i t to slide the card out and I am having problems sliding the card out because when I do the deck closes because I cant hold it rightand my card gets packed inbetween the 2 seperte packs, then if I do get the card out I have problems shooting it out....

Actually, there's something I never quite got. Oz says quite clearly that you shouldn't let the deck close; however, as far as I know the only way to shoot the card out is with the deck closed. If there's a big gap in the deck when you try to shoot the card, I find that it just falls on the floor. If I let the deck close, I can sort of shoot the card.

I don't know if this is my mistake or Oz's (though it's probably mine) but it's what I found.

By the way, I see that you got Born To Perform. Do you like it?

Kati

I found the same but now realse that it's the pressure of the card that's being flicked out against the card above it that counts. It therefore doesn't really matter whether there is a small gap or not.

I'm not surprised that you haven't yet been able to learn this from watching the move four times.

I must have watched it on Born To Perform dozens and dozens of times and still couldn't get it right. I left it alone for a few weeks and then came back to it, all without success. Then I watched the video post of it on TM (I'm sure that it was Goldfish's earlier video post) and then is suddenly fell into place.

It still took a few months of practice to get the consistency that I wanted but it was worth it in the end.

What I've discocered with cards is that some people can pick up some moves in almost an instant whereas others can struggle with the same moves for days, weeks or months on end. We all find different difficulties in different things and you just need to take the time and patience to overcome your own difficulties.

Oz says quite clearly that you shouldn't let the deck close; however, as far as I know the only way to shoot the card out is with the deck closed. If there's a big gap in the deck when you try to shoot the card, I find that it just falls on the floor. If I let the deck close, I can sort of shoot the card.

The method that I use (the original) taught me to keep a gap in the deck as I slide the card out into "flicking" position. In the original method, your index finger is already in between the two packets as you complete the cut, automatically creating quite a large gap between the two packets. As you complete the cut, your index finger's nail is pressing against the required card. If you were to complete the cut without shooting the card, all you need to do is slide your nail out against the face of the card. This provides the least ammount of friction and will complete the cut. If you wish to shoot the card you must manouvere your index finger so the pad of your fingertip is against the face of the card. To do this, you index finger simply straightens up, pushing the very tip of your finger against the upper right corner of the card (if you are looking from above). You do not need to apply too much pressure to angle the card out in one smooth motion of the index finger from this position. All the way through this, the position of your index finger should have maintained a natural gap between the two packets. As you swing the card out and round, this gap will naturally close because the index finger is moving out of it. Mechanically speaking, this gap makes it so much easier to swing the card out because there is less friction against its face. AS for flicking the card, I swing it out until it is perpedicular to the rest of the deck and roughly the bottom right corner is still within the deck (this thread provides a picture of the position that I use). As I flick the card my second finger lines up with my index finger and the edge of the card. A smooth, upward flick is all that is needed to send the card flying out. You should experiment through practise to find what works for you.

Kati, were you asking me if I had bought Born to Perform? I'm afraid not, and I'm afraid it's not on my wish list either at the moment

Daryl also teaches "The Hot Shot Cut" in his encyclopidea of card sleights.

This is one of my favorite cuts, it really impresses people when you hot shot cut there chosen card.

And when you manage to catch it, it impresses them more

Nice Work

I meant wingman .

Teach me to be clearer in what I say...

I see now what you mean with the gap...I always thought he meant that the gap should stay open while shooting out the card...

Kati

thanks for the video demonstration, and thanks for any help anyone here has given me. I spent an hour today practising and im finally getting the hang of the move! Flicking the card is pretty easy, it turns out - its just getting some consistency and actually catching the card im struggling with!!

First, I want to thank Katrielalex. Mianon, GoldFish, dat8962, jimbothegreatest for answering my post. Kati, I did get my order, I got a bunch of things, e.g. Born To Perform, Complete COurse in Magic, RRTCM, Modern COin Magic, Twisted Sisters and some gaff decks. MY review of Born To Perform and COmplete COurse in Magic are .... http://talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic6061.php&h ... rn+perform and http://talkmagic.co.uk/sutra50074.php#50074 respectively.

katrielalex wrote:I meant wingman .

Teach me to be clearer in what I say...

I see now what you mean with the gap...I always thought he meant that the gap should stay open while shooting out the card...

Kati

I thought the same thing Kati

jimbothegreatest wrote:thanks for the video demonstration, and thanks for any help anyone here has given me. I spent an hour today practising and im finally getting the hang of the move! Flicking the card is pretty easy, it turns out - its just getting some consistency and actually catching the card im struggling with!!

My excact problem---- I can shoot the card but it fly's wherever it wants to...

I think it's just practise from here then mate. I'm getting more accurate now.

Yeah.. i know, but I think I am about to rip my pinky off ..

Your pinky? AFAIK your pinky barely comes into the Hot Shot cut...it's used for supporting the packets and that's it.

Now the middle finger, that's another matter!

Kati

Ok, I've basically got the move sorted. Can't wait till I can actually use it on someone now!

As a one-off reveal, the hot shot is pretty impressive, but does anyone actually use it as part of a routine? I've been experimenting with a few ideas and would love to hear anyone else's ideas on how the move could be incorporated as part of a routine.

Jamie

The only thing i dont like about Oz's hot shot cut demo is that it begins with you placing the cards in between your fingers instead of doing it with one hand which i've seen many others perform and it looks much more impressive.

nice vid.. anyway im practicing this trick my self but i cant get the spin done.. im wondering, does the hardness of the card matter?.. coz im using a pretty old worn deck