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Ok.. Here is my torn card video.. i hope u like it.. give some comment

http://kotisivu.dnainternet.fi/remonen2/Torn.wmv

Not too shabby. I am highly interested in purchasing this effect - as it is one of the most convincing torn and restored card effects I've seen.

Just a few comments/suggestions:

1 - You didn't show the card BEFORE the tear. While I'm sure you can do it on the fly, the fact that you just start with two small pieces of the card at the very beginning makes the effect seem a bit diluted.

The first restoration was good. Clean, direct and well performed.

The second restoration had a few minor hiccups. You handled the third piece too much, and your movements were suspicious. It was obvious, at one point, that you were doing something with the piece on your right hand.

At one point, your right hand conceals the ENTIRE piece. You also do this with the left hand when you make the restoration. From what I've seen of the demo, this effect should be performed without the need to hide the card from sight at any time. The two covers make it a bit suspect. Most spectators might not pick up on it, but you should continue to work on the handling of the pieces under fire, where the spectator never loses sight of them.

Just before the fourth piece is produced, is the point where I think your effect becomes very suspicious. You restored the third piece and turned it over. I understand the movements to "smooth" the card - but you lingered just a bit too long to make it a natural gesture. Work on the timing there to cut down on how long this moment lasts before you produce the fourth piece.

The final restoration was good. The handling of the card as you turn it was a bit suspect, but I don't think a lay person would pick up on it.

Overall, it's a tremendous effort. Just work out the tiny little kinks and you're well on your way to flooring just about anyone with the effect.

Out of curiosity - how long have you been working on this effect? I'm trying to get a handle on the difficulty of the effect.

Hope my comments help. Again, bear in mind I'm speaking as someone who doesn't know the entire method, but I just thought I'd point out a few things I noticed.

WOW! That was great! I think I have managed to work it out (after many viewings ) and I think you do it really well, the second piece did seemed a bit sus though.

But I really enjoyed that

Demitri wrote:Out of curiosity - how long have you been working on this effect? I'm trying to get a handle on the difficulty of the effect.

Hope my comments help. Again, bear in mind I'm speaking as someone who doesn't know the entire method, but I just thought I'd point out a few things I noticed.

I have to confess, that i have only try to learn that two days now.. That film was filmed my second day of my practising... that´s why i dont handle the pieces yet very smoothly...

It was good, but you should work more on your handling. It's obvious some moves that are not very perfect, and even a layman can see that something odd is going on. Try to calm down, loosen your grip and soften your routine.

For two days worth of practice that's VERY good. Keep up the practice and it will be flawless in no time!

ANother question is, does a T&R routine really make sense? Why would you tear a card up, just to put it back together?

rcarlsen wrote:ANother question is, does a T&R routine really make sense? Why would you tear a card up, just to put it back together?

ofcource it make sense. Magician can show to spectator, that he could repair cards.. even if card is ripped to four pieces, spectator ofcource thinks, that it is impossible to restore it..

Personally, I don't find the amuzement of this. Also, if a magician can put a card together, anyone would expect him to do the same thing with any other objects. Compared to "normal" or "other" card tricks, this adds something additional to it, which as well of being nice wathcing, also adds a potential challenge.

I'm mostly with Rune on this - the Torn and Restored concept just never sat well with me.

Daniel Garcia's version is very well thought out and presented - and I find it to be one of the more convincing effects. My biggest problem with it, is how you go to the trouble of having the spectator to sign the card to "make sure" it's the same card that's torn - yet through the ENTIRE effect, the face of the card is never shown.

As great as some of these methods seem - I think a large percentage of spectators would immediately suspect a switch of some kind.

I guess it would be good for a mentalist. But if you're not into mentalism, I guess it's not so great.

very good, i like it, i know how it is done, but very good

Daniel Garcia's version is very well thought out and presented - and I find it to be one of the more convincing effects. My biggest problem with it, is how you go to the trouble of having the spectator to sign the card to "make sure" it's the same card that's torn - yet through the ENTIRE effect, the face of the card is never shown.

In Torn the card is signed on the back and at least one part of the signature is visible throughout the entire routine.
It is the first part signed quarter that the other pieces are linked on to.

Demitri,

Have you got round to buying Torn yet?

If you have any questions, drop me a PM mate, and I'll try and answer them. Gotta try and avoid exposure on this thread.

Speak soon mate,