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hi everyone!

I am working with card magic for some time as a hobby.
1) I wanted to hear more about "manipulation cards" generally and specifically about nielsen manipulation cards.
I know what they are technically, but I want to hear reviews of people who worked with them.
In addition i'd like to hear if it worthy to have special deck for manipulation? I'm looking for a deck that i can use mainly for fancy cuts and fans, and also for card production. Do you have a recommendation for me?

2) what is fannig powder? how well it works?

thanks alot, and sory for the bad wording and mistakes.... I am not an English speaker...

Daniel

Thanks for your message and welcome to TM - if you use the Search function above, you'll see some recent posts about fanning powder. As this topic is probably in the most appropriate place here in Support and Tips, we've deleted the duplicate posts in Reviews Request to save having multiple answers.

O.K.

I really didn't know which forum is better for the question...
thank you

Daniel

Can anyone tell me about the manipulation cards?
thenks
Daniel

Hi,

I've got some manipulation cards, but they are not Nielsen manipulation cards, so i can't comment on the quality of these cards. The cards i have are Peter Marvey cards.

When i first started with manipulations i got the "art of card manipulation" video's by Jeff McBride. On one of the tapes (i thought it was volume 2) he shows how to prepare cards for manipulation, so i used normal poker sized bike cards.

When i got the manipulation cards they were bridge sized. I prefer the poker size because they are just a bit bigger and give some more room to grip the cards, which i find very usefull for back palm productions.

The manipulation cards are very thin, so let's say your limit for back palming normal cards is 10 then you can back palm about 20 to 25 manipulation cards, so you can produce a lot more before you have to 'steal' some new cards to produce.

The downside for these thinner cards is they are easy to fold and wrinkle if you happen to produce the cards a bit sloppy. Also the 'snap production' seems to ruin these thin cards (or maybe i hold them to tight ?)

Also i don't like the way these cards fan, cut or shuffle. Again, i cant comment about the Nielsen cards, but the Marvey cards are only for manipulation, no fancy show-off moves.

As for fanning powder, it's a powder that should make old cards smooth again so they become easy to fan. See the link below for another thread about fanning powder.
http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic6784.p ... ght=powder

So, my conclusion for manipulation cards:
I don't use them, i use normal bike cards that i break in a little by bending them. Practice with these cards for a while and they will get looser for manipulations. I don't use powder on them. The bike cards last a long time, and when they get to sticky to use, i just throw them away.

Hope this helps a bit.

Many years ago, I had the Nielsen cards, and yes, they are good for manips (I don't do it anymore), but yes, they are very well designed for doing manipulations.

O.K
thanks alot!
I decided I'll buy one deck to try, and fanning powder, and see how it is for me.

thanks everybody!
Daniel

Does anybody here know if you can get manipulation cards in Bikes?

thanks

I've never seen a Bicycle manipulation deck.

Manipulation decks tend to have a solid back, generally red & white, or pink/flesh coloured. The white borders on the back of Bike's would flash too much if you were doing a card manip routine, such as card productions.

Hope this helps,