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Zero000 wrote: Cardza, you forgot one more great gaffed card trick. NFW

NFW! Great piece of magic, completely impossible when presented right. Yeah it is great. Short, sweet and incredible.

Truth be told there are loads of great gaffed pieces of magic out there, just a matter of sifting the good from the bad. Special Delivery is another good one but I don't get to perform it much as you need to carry the envelopes around...



TS, Symbologic, Bikin', Double Back, all great as well.

One reason I don't like gaffed decks or tricks that envolve more then just a deck of cards is that you have to carry it all with you. I just like to carry one maybe two decks with me. But does any one know any good dvds that they think would be good for me? i have oz pearlmans Born To Perform.


thanks for the help
kemo

Kemo - As I mentioned before, the Ammar Easy to Master Card Miracle series is a great buy.

I totally understand the desire to have as little to carry as possible. Generally, I keep gaff/gimmick cards in a plastic wallet (like the packet trick holders) and slip them in whenever I need or want one. It takes up very little space. But - if you can and do perform everything you love without gimmicks, more power to you. Do what YOU like - that's all that matters.

Zero000 wrote:

ace of kev wrote:

Zero000 wrote:Cardza, you forgot one more great gaffed card trick. NFW

You can do that Ungimmicked

yeah, but it looks a little better with it ungimmicked. IMO

And the Ungimmicked is actually not that difficult either.

how many dvds are there in he Ammar Easy to Master Card Miracle series? ive seen advertisements for vol.1-3 5 and 6 but never 4 are there any more vols and where should i get them from on the internet?

kemo

There are 9 total dvd's in the card miracles series.

1-6 are all worth the purchase. 7-9 seems to be a different story. I haven't seen many reviews, but the general consensus on these is that they're not as good - which is too bad, as some of the effects sound interesting. But, there you have it - 9 videos in total.

I own volumes 2 and 3 of Easy to Master Card Miracles, and recommend them equally as much as Demitri! Out of the two i have, i have only really watched volume 2, but from i have seen on 3 it looks to be on par with it!

Kemo wrote:One reason I don't like gaffed decks or tricks that envolve more then just a deck of cards is that you have to carry it all with you. I just like to carry one maybe two decks with me. But does any one know any good dvds that they think would be good for me? i have oz pearlmans Born To Perform.


thanks for the help
kemo

You only need to carry one deck if you are going to do gaff tricks, as long as it does not involve gaff decks. You can just jave the gaff with you in your pocket, and when you want to do it you just palm it and bring it out.

Gaff Tricks usually have a better effect, because you can't really do it with a normal deck without having some knowledge about cards, or sometimes, you cant even do it at all!

To tell the truth, I prefer non-gimmicked tricks because I like to show off what I can do, not what a gimmick can do.

Do you have RRTCM? (Royal Road to Card Magic) I would recommened getting that book if you don't have it.

Hey Ace

I don't have RRTCM nor do I have any other books or dvds(well except Born To Perform and the little gaint encyclopedia of card magic). Also I don't really learn well from books. I find it much easier to watch some one do it and then repeat. I found these 3 dvds on peguin magic and I was wondering if there are any reviews on these out there? the dvds are:
Color Changes Starring Jay Noblezada
Green Magic by Lennart Green series
Green Lite by Lennart Green
Also do any of you ever come across those real annoying spectator that try to ruin you tricks or try to make you do certin stuff a certin way? if so what do you do when you come across them?

thanks
kemo

I don't like learning from books either, but this one is good

For that type of spectator, just stop the magic and don't show them anymore. If they think they know how its done, you could do some trick and make a total fool out of them, ie The Pen is Mighter I think its called.

do any of you ever come across those real annoying spectator that try to ruin you tricks or try to make you do certin stuff a certin way? if so what do you do when you come across them?

I'd suggest you never, ever, descend to their level and try to get your own back on them because that just shows you up as being a nasty sort of person - even if they started it and thoroughly deserve a smack in the mouth! Just be polite and professional, explain to everyone that you can't really work your magic under these circumstances, apologise to the good specs, pack up and leave with dignity. As for trying to make you do stuff in a certain way, make it a strict rule that you and only you decide what you will do and what you won’t do. Unless you're really ready to perform things on demand, once you start doing requests like that the specs take control and you can lose their attention and respect. Again, just be polite and explain that you've worked on a few miracles especially for this performance and it would be a shame to go home without doing them. Something along those lines anyway!

Yes I agree, but sometimes a good trick like that can shut them up. Jay Sankey even says so at the end of that Tutorial Vid

Kemo wrote:

I will do stacked decked trick from time to time(such as out of this world).

I Hope all of you who perform a "stacked deck" version of this trick are doing a version thats a helluva lot better than mine 'cause I do mine completely impromptu. If you've gotta stack a deck to do a trick you'd better make damn sure it's than any impromtu verison.

If anyone wants good impromptu material (although not all cards) they should get Jay Sankey's "Anytime, Anywhere". It's fantastic.

Kemo Said:

I think all gaff tricks involve no skill

I somehow feel you've missed the point. Magic isn't about skill, it's about eliciting the best response possible from your audience. In magic, the ends really do justify the means.

Anyone who has doubts about gimmicked decks should just try Jay Sankey's "Astral Projection" on someone. As soon as you see the response to it when you try it yourslef, you'll never leave the house without this trick and you'll walk around the house with it. And the best part is about this trick: no-one ever want to check the deck (in my experience - unlike some other gimmicked tricked I've used), they just wanna know how you did it.[/b]

Hey magic_evmeister, I didn't miss the point of magic. I know that it is ment to entertain people, but I also want to do that with my own skill not the aid of some gaff card or object. I feel its alot more pure way of doing magic. This is my own opinion and to each their own. Also what is your version of out of this world? what is the effect and stuff?

kemo

True Kemo, it all comes down to personal choice. I don't have a problem with gimmicks but I also perform magic which depends on skill, sleight of hand and the like as well as some simpler effects for when there's no chance of getting away with a move. Still, I have found gimmicks to be useful in such occasions when I've been asked to do an effect which I've showed someone and relies on sleights but angles are a problem...each to their own though.

OOTW's a great effect, I think Tom Salinsky has a version of it out.