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Postby kems » Oct 26th, '05, 19:42



My first attempt at filming a card trick :oops:
Im not really pleased with it and was going to remove my talking but I really need to work on my patter so will keep it in so I can see how bad I am and have something to work away from!!!

I like the effect and want to perfect it, I fool people with it at the moment but I am not confident with cards yet.

Feedback appreciated :D :? :(

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Postby stevebo » Oct 26th, '05, 20:28

Good effect and nicely done!

My own preference but I suggest using poker sized cards e.g. Bikes or Tally Ho's.

You seem a little shaky. Try not to be and work with it.

Practice the trick with an audience! You may mess up but sometimes that's just the way it is! That's how I learn. Think of it this way: You mess up and the audience THINK they know how it's done, but in reality, they don't. Makes you feel better when you mess up and you can spontaneously make up other stuff!

e.g. Ambitious card: if they see me doing a DL, I finish off the part of the trick and then do it again using another method, and boom! The card's in my mouth :P.

Only way to learn is with the real audience :D!

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Postby kems » Oct 26th, '05, 20:33

Thanks Stevebo, I couldnt find my blue pack of bikes so I had to use the cheapo cards, did you notice that I took them from a RED bike case?

I agree about the shakyness think i was rushing it?

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Postby nathan » Oct 26th, '05, 20:52

very good, that is my fav trick, very easy yet effective...anyway on topic... i cant hear you talk, pic a song that doesnt sing...jsut a thought

9/10 imo

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Postby katrielalex » Oct 26th, '05, 21:03

That was quite good...I have a few comments, though.

1) You really need to say something during the turning-over phase. Personally, I find that tricks like this don't work unless they are done very very quickly - they get very boring very fast. You either need to ditch the "twist the cards" or else come up with some good patter to fill in the gap.

2) As stevebo said, try to relax a little while you're performing this - it looks a bit tense the whole way through. Also, it seems very contrived to take the cards out then put them back again, without justification. Why not outjog them then swivel them onto the top of the deck...?

Apart from that (:D) it was good...and I don't mean to be critical...;)

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Postby mark_c1975 » Oct 26th, '05, 21:29

I like this trick, but I think the cleaner handling is done using the Ascanio Spread method rather than the Biddle Count.

With the Ascanio method, you start out with the 4 cards, so there's no need to hunt through the deck.

Still, well done, and keep up the good work!

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Postby Demitri » Oct 26th, '05, 22:29

Yet another strong effort from Kems!!! Nice work!

mark - the reason for starting with the entire deck is to heighten the strength of the full deck color change. Had he not pulled the cards from the deck, he couldn't do the finale.

However, I do agree the ascanio spread handling seems much more fluid. However, the biddle works nicely and doesn't bother me at all.

I also agree with kati - this effect needs to move at a brisk pace. Not so much for the interest factor, but I find the speed makes the cards turning over more powerful. When you slow this one down, people might think you're doing something with the cards. That's just my opinion on that.

I would recommend ditching the "twist" move. It's not really needed, and doesn't strengthen the effect.

The only other comment is that I couldn't really hear your patter. It seemed like you were focused more on the moves and visual presentation and you held back on the verbal presentation. Speak up! Once the patter catches up to the level your performance is already at, you have a stunner!

Great job.

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Postby mark_c1975 » Oct 26th, '05, 22:38

Good point Demitri... I see the need for the deck. But as kati said, it seems odd to take them out and put them back again.

The Biddle works well with it handled like this. I guess the Ascanio lends itself to a more 'packet trick' effect, rather than taking the cards from a full deck, you have them ready to hand.

Good work Kems... look forward to seeing more from you!

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Postby Demitri » Oct 27th, '05, 05:15

Actually, Kems made the move seem quite natural.

Swivelling the cards out will work, but you still need to rearrange the cards into numerical order when you do.

Kems did just that. While he didn't outjog and swivel, he did table and put back on the top of the deck. He had to, in order to get the cards in order. This makes it seem natural, since he wants (and states that he wants to) get the cards in order.

A spectator wouldn't read more into this, since he DOES have a purpose for doing it. It plays naturally, and I wouldn't say he needs to alter it. The swivel works, but so does this.

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Postby kems » Oct 27th, '05, 09:23

Thanks for the feedback, I'm gonna practice some more and maybe change a few bits!

I'm thinking about some spooky patter for halloween, haunted deck or something where you just dont know what the spirt will do next :twisted: and at the end the cards are blood red instead of blue!

could be good if i had some of the black bikes!

thanks again

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Postby mark_c1975 » Oct 27th, '05, 10:23

I like the Halloween idea Kems.

One thing that the great Alex Elmsley said about tricks that involve colour-changing backs is that if you're going to show the backs have changed colour, make sure that the patterns change as well. So if you're going to change blue-back to red-back, make sure the design differs for an extra punch.

Why not change the blue Rider-backs into red Tally-ho fans? Or if you want to keep it all on Bike stock, then rider-backs into league-backs.

Will you post a vid of the Halloween routine?

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Postby kems » Oct 28th, '05, 09:41

mark_c1975 wrote:Why not change the blue Rider-backs into red Tally-ho fans? Or if you want to keep it all on Bike stock, then rider-backs into league-backs.

Will you post a vid of the Halloween routine?


I really like the idea of changing for a different style back, i think all blank would be quite powerful!

I might try another Vid soon, I have been working on the handling a bit.

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