Hot Shot Cut Help

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Hot Shot Cut Help

Postby flunkie_uk » Oct 30th, '05, 22:35



Hi,

I am having real difficulty with the hot shot cut. I just cannot get the top packet underneath the botttom packet after the rotation. The bottom packet is always too far down my index finger so I cannot turn my index finger under it.

All help is greatly appreciated and may prevent me from chopping my fingers off and burning my cards (for practicality, not in that order!!!).

Cheers :-)

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Postby Kemo » Oct 30th, '05, 23:16

when you set up for the one handed cut try to place the bottom card of the deck inline with your first knuckle on both your index and middle fingers. then after you do the cut ben both fingers at the top knuckle and the bottom packet should just slide above the top packet.

hope that helps
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still struggling

Postby flunkie_uk » Oct 31st, '05, 10:40

Thanks for your reply :-). I do start with the cards high up on my fingers in the position you mentioned, but for some reason the bottom packet always ends up too low for me to pass the top packet and my index finger underneath it.

I have noticed that at the point where Daryl is about to pass one packet under the other, he has his two middle fingers curled over the packet at the first phalanx. My second finger ends up straight out at this point and I cannot get it down far enough to curl over the top of the lower packet. I am guessing this has to be because the bottom packet is too low.

Here is a video of the problem:

http://www.geocities.com/packman_michael/index.html

I am definitely missing something here (possible a brain or some talent!!)

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Postby Kemo » Oct 31st, '05, 11:58

how do you hold to cards? your handeling looked different then mine. i use my index and middle fingers. it looked like you were using your pinky at one point. other than that i couldn't really tell what was wrong.

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Postby Kemo » Oct 31st, '05, 12:01

yea i think you might be holding the cards wrong. but each person has the own ways of doin things. so if it works for you(which it doesn't seem to do right now) great. but if it doesn't just try different postions till you find what works

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Postby SirRawlins » Oct 31st, '05, 12:03

I do mine the same way as Kemo... its a much better method ... taught by Oz Peralman on his Born To Perform DVD.

Thanks,

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Postby GoldFish » Oct 31st, '05, 13:16

Have you tried practising with just a few cards (e.g. half the deck)?

I think an important part of this move is teaching your hand to stretch far enough whilst at the same time controling the cards. I hate to say it but it may well just be a case of practise, practise, practise.

All the best,

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thanks

Postby flunkie_uk » Oct 31st, '05, 18:06

for all the advice. I will try the revised handling when i get home tonight. May just be a case of stretching my fingers 8" on some kind of medieval rack, or just having Daryl's hands grafted onto the ends of my arms. That should do it.:wink:

I have ordered the D'evo Xtreme DVD thingy, as I only have an old VHS of Daryl doing the Hot Shot Cut and it is really tricky to see. I didn't want to rebuy it on dvd just for that flourish (all the other bits of the VHS are fine, it is just the hot shot that goes fuzzy - how bl**dy typical is that!!!). I thought it might be more fun to try something new. Hopefully it will help. :-)

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Postby stevebo » Nov 1st, '05, 12:52

SirRawlins wrote:I do mine the same way as Kemo... its a much better method ... taught by Oz Peralman on his Born To Perform DVD.

Thanks,

Rob


Oz's Hot Shot cut is easier to perform, but I find that Daryl's original version is flashier, and when done very rapidly, the cut looks great.

StEvEbO!

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Postby saxmad » Nov 1st, '05, 21:47

Ian Kendall has an excellent instructional CD on this, and other, moves.
Click here.

He doesn't just explain the handling, but goes into a lot of detail on hand position, movement etc.

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Postby flunkie_uk » Nov 2nd, '05, 15:46

that's great, thanks very much. I have ordered the disk. i will let you know how I get on.

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Postby GoldFish » Nov 2nd, '05, 15:50

saxmad wrote:Ian Kendall has an excellent instructional CD on this, and other, moves.
Click here.

He doesn't just explain the handling, but goes into a lot of detail on hand position, movement etc.


Yes the CD is excellent, but Ian does not explain the Hot Shot Cut.

I suppose it's too late now if you've already ordered, but not to worry it is a fantastic disk anyway.

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Postby flunkie_uk » Nov 2nd, '05, 17:22

ah...ok....erm.....great. :?

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Postby flunkie_uk » Nov 4th, '05, 11:47

I bought Xtreme Beginnerz and the explanation of the Hotshot Cut on that is superb. It is seen from the perspecitve of the performer and explained in meticulous detail. I have only watched the first disk of this set so far, but I can't recommend it enough. The detail on each of the manipulations is great. You pick things up so quickly because you forgo the whole "What was he doing there?" thing and just get straight on with the practice.

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Postby saxmad » Nov 4th, '05, 13:14

GoldFish wrote:
saxmad wrote:Ian Kendall has an excellent instructional CD on this, and other, moves.
Click here.

He doesn't just explain the handling, but goes into a lot of detail on hand position, movement etc.


Yes the CD is excellent, but Ian does not explain the Hot Shot Cut.

I suppose it's too late now if you've already ordered, but not to worry it is a fantastic disk anyway.


Oops - sorry for that. :oops:

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