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This is going to be very difficult to ask here me thinks.

I have a question about a slieght I accidently stumbled upon while practicing a different one. I don't know if it is a known one or not. Here is the effect it can produce.

You take any deck normal shuffled deck. You have the spec remove any card (completely free) you take it and visibly (the deck can be sideways/face up doesnt matter) place the card halfway into the deck and show it from all sides, so the card is really halfway in the deck. No switches or anything. Then you push the card the rest of the way in and lose it. Cut it once or twice, do a shuffle whatever. This is a completely clean trick, no funny shuffles, no funny cuts. You then take the deck and spread it on the table and the only card that is face up is theirs.

The only problem with it is I think it is almost too clean. All the spec sees is the card go in the deck and then their card is face up. Removes some of the anticipation.

Really all I am looking for is a "yes this exists" and maybe the name of the slieght. If it doesn't I am thinking about publishing it as it is fairly simple. I know the roots of it, because it is an adaptation of another very popular one which was further adapted by another magician. (Both just had completely different results) I just want to make sure I give credit where credit is due and don't steal anything. I just don't personally know *any* slieght of hand artists to ask.

Thanks.

1011

There is a sleight called the Paul lePaul Center [sic ] Reverse which Sankey teaches somewhere which reverses a card in the middle of the deck - but it's definitely not clean and requires significant misdirection for the second or so it takes...

This isn't the oldie where the deck has one odd card on top is it?

Apart from that, it certainly sounds quite good...the best way I can think of is a control to bottom + half pass + turnover pass which is fairly knuckle-busting and not really that clean...

Kati

Definately none of those. It is technically a single move. (I say that because there is two parts to it but only one of them is a slieght) and can be done in plain view with a spectator staring at the deck. If done right, I would venture to say it is *possible* to do surrounded.

I do have to admit there is 1 flaw with it right now. But I can only attest that to the fact I made it up and am still practising and should have it dealt with soon. (The flaw is in my execution of it, not the theory of the move). But, even with it there, I have still yet to have a single person notice it. Although I have only done this for 1 full magician.

I am very timid to explain the slieght as I don't want it to get out unless it already exists.

Oh yeah, and its definately not that oldie version. The deck can be seen from ALL point of views while the card is halfway in the deck. You can place it in the deck while it is spread and show all cards showing there are no breaks held ect. There are no breaks, no reversed cards (that is until the end heh) no switching, no doubles, no gaff decks, no setup, nothing. It is a single slieght.

I had a move like this when I was starting out. I probably should use it more. Its an incredibally simple trick with only one secret move. Then from there out you can shuffle it or do anything and there card will always end up backward.

Might you be able to post a vid? May help identifying it IF it exists, and of course if it didn't it sounds like you're on to a winner!

Wow all I can say is it sounds like magic

1011,
If the move is as good as you say it is, then you may very well have come up with a new sleight; I can't speak with authority since cards are not my specialty.

But that's the way magic progresses. Not by "brilliant flashes" by "major names" but by hard work by those in the trenches.

You may well be onto something; keep up the good work.

just curious but you didnt stumble onto this while practicing a classic pass did you? if so then i used to do it and im pretty sure everyone else who has learnt the pass has stumbled on it in one form or another

This routine sounds like one in the royal road to card magic topsy turvey cards the routine is different but I imagine it works on the same principal.

May I ask one question which I hope dose not class as exposure but am I right in thinking that the slight is only done with one card?

Dean

the_mog wrote:just curious but you didnt stumble onto this while practicing a classic pass did you? if so then i used to do it and im pretty sure everyone else who has learnt the pass has stumbled on it in one form or another

Yes, It might be that. I am currently practising the pass, so I have been doing that a lot

To all those asking if it were related to the pass. The answer is no. I do know the accident you are talking about and that is not it. As I said there are no breaks involved period.

To the question about if it can be done with one card, the answer is half a yes and half a no. If you knew how it was done you would understand. But also that reminds me. Using the same sleight I came up with a segway in an ambitious card routiene. I basically get to the point after one card has come up to the top over and over where I think it is about to lose its cleverness so I have "the wrong card" come to top. Of course "i screwed up" so I rectify this with some kinda color change. (Usually shapeshifter). Then I turn it into a kinda double ambitious card playing on them being mates. One of the things I do after I have both of them visible, is I take one and place it in one spot of the deck and take the other and place it in another half. (Or i fan the deck and allow the spectators to put them wherever) and I close up the fan showing both cards face down in seperate locations in the deck. I push them into the deck, maybe shuffle a bit, and then when i spread them I either have them both face up right next to each other (if I am feeling very 'lucky' ill let them shuffle before this one) or I have them face up in other parts of the deck but being the only face up cards. (Meaning, they dont have to be next to each other ) anyway.

I am working on putting together a video to post to let you guys see it in action. But I dont have a camera and even though I goto a multimedia school it isnt easy using their facilities. (Mainly because I am not doing the film programme, but the audio) Anyway. I am torn on if I should try and market it, or use it in my repetoir and hope it helps with my image or whatnot. Anyway.

the_mog wrote:just curious but you didnt stumble onto this while practicing a classic pass did you? if so then i used to do it and im pretty sure everyone else who has learnt the pass has stumbled on it in one form or another

i know excactley wat u mean. This is(or could be,i should say) a brilliant move, although it is a bit difficult to get right every time. The main problem i found is the noise. Ive been trying to work on it for a while, but never use it and cant seem to get it down.its one of those things you keep coming back to from time to time. I spoke to one of my friends(who is a pretty well known card man) and he says he has been working on his own version of it. He hasnt shown me yet but i trust it will be pretty impressive.

i1101i after the card has been returned to the deck halfway, how many cuts or shuffles do you have to do? can it be done with one cut and no shuffles.I dont want to know how its done, but need a clearer picture of how many moves you can do it in. Also, is there a problem with noise?

Without_Control wrote:i1101i after the card has been returned to the deck halfway, how many cuts or shuffles do you have to do? can it be done with one cut and no shuffles.I dont want to know how its done, but need a clearer picture of how many moves you can do it in. Also, is there a problem with noise?

Well, technically it is 1 cut, but I can't answer more of the question as it would give away the sleight. In a way, the cut is part of the move. You can cut as much as you like as long as you are careful as the card is upside down.