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Yep it's certainly a strong effect although for the worker it's a lot of pocket space for 1 trick. I'm not sure yet if it will take the place of Phil Plus.

Trilogy has found its way into my pocket on many an occasion now.

I agree repeating this trick, especially when performing in a close proximity setting is risky so I have lets say a second version with me in case of requests.

I believe it is well worth its £30 price tag and that this trick will be around for many years to come.

I have changed the handling and set up slightly and I get awesome reactions.

9 / 10

Templer

Hi Tom
I noticed that you said the first two spectators can genuinely pick 'any' numbers. (putting the word any in inverted commas). Does that mean they can't actually pick any, but are constrained in some way? Eg first spec picks a number between 1-10 & 2nd spec picks between 11-20? This would seem to be perfectly reasonable as the 'management' you mentioned - no spec should object to that!
Or were the inverted commas just for visual emphasis?

Also can the 3 cards be kept by the specs?
(I assume the whole deck cannot be examined)

The effect can be structured in slightly different ways, according to taste, but there's no need to insist they choose a number between such-and-such and so-and-so.

The cards could be kept, if you really want to go to the trouble of making up replacements every single time. Bearing in mind many performers who do signed card routines don't let the participants retain their cards, I see absolutely no reason why the question should even arise here.

Sorry, I didn't express myself properly. I meant is it safe for them to be handed out for close examination. Didn't mean that you are necessarily dishing them out as souvenirs.

question, does the price needs to be that high?

Nikodemus wrote:Sorry, I didn't express myself properly. I meant is it safe for them to be handed out for close examination. Didn't mean that you are necessarily dishing them out as souvenirs.

There is no reason why the participants could not handle the card they chose.

Zero, I am not really sure how to answer that question. You've enough experience of magic to know that sometimes you pay for the props (usually utility things like silks and sponge balls), sometimes for the secret (books and instruction sheets) and sometimes both. It's a bit like asking if the Mona Lisa needs to be as valuable as it is. In one sense, it's just a bit of old canvas, with some old paint on it. That's not where the value lies.

If you have Trilogy you will know what it actually consists of...now, if you were to go and price those things as separate items, add the special work that needed to be done, printing of instructions, multiply that by 500-1000 for a minimum first run, add advertising costs and purchase of rights...and let's not forget Alakazam's right (if not responsibility as a company) to actually earn a bit of profit and you'll find the price is pretty fair.

I notice that Phil Plus is available for about £15, whereas Trilogy is £30!

I notice that Phil Plus is available for about £15, whereas Trilogy is £30!

Regardless of the method, they're different effects, they play differently, and they use different props. If it's worth £30 to you, you will buy it. If it's not. You won't.

Hi,

Part-Timer, you say

"The cards could be kept, if you really want to go to the trouble of making up replacements every single time."

I played around with this idea of giving out the cards as a souvenir but find it difficult to get the necessary special cards to refill. has anybody any idea on where to get those "special" cards?

Thanks a lot

Stefan

Part-Timer wrote:Zero, I am not really sure how to answer that question. You've enough experience of magic to know that sometimes you pay for the props (usually utility things like silks and sponge balls), sometimes for the secret (books and instruction sheets) and sometimes both. It's a bit like asking if the Mona Lisa needs to be as valuable as it is. In one sense, it's just a bit of old canvas, with some old paint on it. That's not where the value lies.

i was just wondering if it was overpriced...

well. i recieved my trilogy today, havent gotten around to learn it yet though...

I have now bought Trilogy. It was exactly what I expected & I was not disappointed.
Regarding the issue of whether it is overpriced - it is printed on cards that do not come cheap. So you ARE to an extent paying for the raw materials, not just the method. [There is a very good reason why these are not on Bikes, but don't expect anyone to tell you what that reason is - exposure]
Also (to answer my own question from earlier!) you will not give them away cos they are impossible to replace. But the selected cards are totally examinable.

Two questions:
1. An alternative setup would allow a 2-phase routine with none of the management required for the recommended 3-phase routine. Has anyone considered this? Do people think it would be a good trade off - one less phase, but total freedom in those phases? [NB this setup is NOT compatible with the 3-phase one; you would need to buy it again]
2. Does anyone know if it is possible to get 'refills'?

This may be a self-fulfilling prophesy, but when I performed Trilogy recently for the first time (for my brother), I got the reaction I expected:
"The last part is really good" [ie first two phases were not so impressive]