Paperclipped - Jay Sankey

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Postby Jordan C » Feb 13th, '04, 19:07



I've been learning the routine from the Best of Sankey, Vol. 3. Sounds like I might want to get Paperclipped for further handling advice.


Buying Paperclipped as a separate DVD is a very wise choice. There are 5 bonus routines on there as well as the extra time taken with explanation of how to perform paperclipped.

Perhaps the ears of emagictricks are listening and will realise how popular this may be and will try to stock it themselves.

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Postby gony » Jun 14th, '05, 20:40

I know this is an old thread, but I have been practising the MCF on and off for the last few weeks and finally tried paperclipped out on my wife tonite. She is normally non-plussed about magic but she was genuinely impressed! Just shows that a little practice goes a long way! :D

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Postby ijohan » Oct 18th, '05, 08:22

Hi,

Just want to add that this MCF is also available in Anytime Anywhere. So, once you've mastered this move, there's one trick in Anytime Anywhere CD which is really MIND BLOWING. I think it's called IMAGINE.

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Postby Zero000 » Oct 19th, '05, 01:00

ijohan wrote:Hi,

Just want to add that this MCF is also available in Anytime Anywhere. So, once you've mastered this move, there's one trick in Anytime Anywhere CD which is really MIND BLOWING. I think it's called IMAGINE.

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yeah i learned it from there too... didnt buy the dvd, a little obvious once you know MCF, but jay probably teaches better handling and patter too. and wow, this thread is old

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Postby ijohan » Oct 19th, '05, 07:18

I know it's a bit old here in Indonesia because here you don't find any magic shop that sells imported stuffs. Or... do you mean I'm old :wink: ?

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Postby wardy2001 » Dec 28th, '05, 20:00

Not wanting to get in anyones bad books, but I personally thought Paperclipped was rubbish, using obvious methods and never giving the spectator a chance to really believe that the card can be in two places at once.

But then im not really a fan of Sankeys work so I might be a little biased.

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Postby Demitri » Dec 28th, '05, 22:42

I'm noticing quite a few posts from you, wardy, where you think less of an effect since the method or performance seems obvious to you.

I ask that you consider those two words - "to you"

Many tricks or effects are obvious to magicians. However, we're not performing for magicians. Pulling a DL is one of the basic moves - and yet a lay person would never suspect that you did one. Why? Because they don't know what a DL is, or they didn't see you do one.

I can say, with no problem at all, that only the most perceptive of laymen can figure out paperclipped. Unless you physically fold the card right in plain sight, there is almost no way a spec will pick up on it.

Also, I would take another look at Sankey and this effect. Over the years he has polished it to even more beautiful results. He has quite a few effects that use the same move and method - all of which are stunners. Perhaps try to use it as a finish to an ACR, or some other card routine. I wouldn't use paperclipped as a one shot effect, so maybe that's where your problem lies with it.

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Postby wardy2001 » Dec 28th, '05, 23:06

Hi Demitri,

I have been posting quite a bit, just trying to make up for lost time and wading through the mountains of posts on the site, great fun it is to.

I agree that I view the effect through a "magicians" eyes, in fact I would say that if I cannot perform an effect that would suitably fool or mislead an amateur I would not perform it. That is a quirk of my personal preference and perhaps is not a good one. But I also think that not crediting the spectator with enough intelligence is equally as bad. Most people have seen the occasional "magic reveled" on TV or have an uncle who can do the odd card trick or two, some of them might even know a couple themselves, to present them with a trick that leaves more than one question rattling around their head does no favors for magic or for your status in their eyes.

I also agree that I am guilty of seeing the effect as a stand alone piece, but I don't like the thought of bolstering it by adding it to the end of an Ambitious card or the like.

I think the main problem I have with it is the premise of the trick, the style presented by Jay is that the card can be in two places at once but as I said before, at no point in the effect does the spectator really feel like this is possible let alone actually happening. Perhaps if this were presented in a different way I might feel differently, but it still does not get past my initial feeling of obvious and not expanding on the plot.

But I agree, this is probably more to do with the way it looks "to me" rather than the trick itself.

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Postby Demitri » Dec 29th, '05, 00:55

I know you said you're not a fan of Sankey, but if you get a chance - check out his DVD Front Row Sankey - the effect is "The Full Lotus". It's a nice routine using the joker.

What makes this work nicely (in contrast to the standard paperclipped routine) is that the paperclipped joker is in full view from beginning to end. This may solve the problem you have (which I agree with, and which is why I don't use it as a standalone). The paperclip doesn't come out of nowhere - it has a purpose and is seen from beginning to end - which I think helps with the problem of the same card in two places.

Giving your post some more thought, I think I understand more where your problem comes from. Is it that the paperclip is just kind of brought in out of nowhere? If so, then I agree with your opinion of the effect.

I should also clarify - when I use paperclipped as a finish to ACR - I introduce the paperclipped card BEFORE I start the routine - mentioning the "wild" card. When all is said and done, I reveal that my trapped wild card was, in fact, their card the whole time.

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Postby Markdini » Jan 13th, '06, 01:34

There is also a version on 22 blows to the head also by sankey, not owning paperclipped i am not sure how diffrent this version is sankey dose mention it being slightly diffirent.

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