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i normally buy blue backed cards, but have bought red. I dont know which looks better or which people prefer. Just a quick quiz to see which is the most popular.

At the moment I am mainly sticking to one colour - as this way I can switch between all my gaffed decks and still give the impression that I am only using one straight deck.

As for what colour - I don't think it makes any difference. I went with blue as that is what my first gaffed deck was.

In saying that I have started buying a few packet stuff with red backs - so I guess I am becoming more and more inter-racial.

I use both just as often, as I have some blue and some red gaffed decks, audiences don't seem to care which you use, but there is an argument in the magical world that red cards are more visible, so finding that the chosen card is the only red in a blue deck is more impressive than a blue in a red deck, all comes down to personal preference. We get some guys come into the shop and will only ever buy blue.

I wonder why can you never get green backs? I guess too many americans would mistake them form money...

Personally, I prefer red decks for most effects, but blue decks have a much better retention of vision when you're doing quick moves which involve sleights and deceptions...

Red backs are better when doing effects involving odd deals, turnovers and switches - as the coloured backs seem to 'blur' together. Blue decks are much easier to spot in motion.

I have a always got a vast selection of each to hand - including some Bee decks - which, in case you didn't know, are made to the same high standard as bikes, but without the white border around the back design. The backs are also criss-cross patterned - so they're great for manipulations...

Any if they DID make green cards - you could do some awesome three-card monte routines - with three different fronts and three different backs to play with!

As for variety, I've also got some club/casino cards (inspired after buying Lennart Green's Stolen Cards effect). There's some whacky variations out there, folks!

My money would go on Blue backs - for the same reason as Bananafish - my first deck of Bikes were blue and most of my gaffed decks are blue. Strangely enough, most of the cards in my packet tricks seem to be red backed! Then I look at the deck which came with 'Deep Astonishment' and I'm even more confused!

I have spare 'normal' decks equally in both colours - even in the miniature decks - so I obviously can't make my mind up. By the way, I believe green backs (and some other colours) are available as stickers from cards4magic so you can all have your dearet wishes granted!

which colour do you think looks professional?

Since they both look the dog's doodahs, I'd hate to have to decide one way or the other.

If really pushed, Perhaps I'd stick with blue for full decks and red for packets or smaller routines. Yes, that's what I'd do - I think!!

For me, neither colour is favourite, except in the practical sense, as I outline above.

I will say, though, that I've been making some videos for this forum - and blue backs are far more photogenic for the purpose of explanation... red backs have a far lower persistence of vision - and it's easy to lose track of them.

This is great if you're doing some serious card work, where you don't want the cards to be easily followed by prying eyes. However, the blue cards are far less common - it would seem. Red cards seem to be far more accessible to the public, and mostly when cards are portrayed - they will be visualised as red.

Therefore, there's two ways of making your choice:

RED: FOR - people recognise them as credible, they see them as available and feel at home with them. They have a short POV, which makes them ideal for Monte, turnovers, transpo's, etc. In manipulations such as productions, vanishes and palming, they're a bit closer to skin tone - so as long as they're kept moving, they're more invisible (back to the poor POV again...)

AGAINST: They are common. The poor POV can not clearly show card movement. I've had it happen where I've mentioned a 'red' card - which is ambiguous when both the face and back are red!

BLUE: FOR - blues are less common, and have a natural appeal because of it. They are great for moves where it's essential to dupe the speccy into seeing motion. They are much better photographically! And also, they're much easier to make gaffs with, as joins and folds show up less.

AGAINST: They've got a high POV - so they're not much good for manipulations like vanishes or productions - and they're not really too good for monte work, especially when doing the real 'moves'.

RED & BLUE: USE THEM BOTH!!!
A few effects NEED red and blue together, so to make this a credible alliance, it makes sense to use both blue and red decks in your repertoire.

The bottom line is that if you only do a couple of effects with cards, use reds. They're far less suspicious because of their familiar feel - and the speccies will be less likely to think you're using a fake deck.

But blues have a little more charm - and if you use the red/blue mix, they're just a part of your arsenal (or Chelsea...)

Blue suits my taste best but i have just biught bandwich from jb and it uses a red back so i'll have to make an exeption


Boywonder

Definetly gonna have to go with blue just because i like it better lol and because what someone said (i can't remeber) it makes it harder for the spectator do see sleight of hand

I think the word's you're looking for are 'Persistence of Vision'!!!

Welcome to the board!

bananafish Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 1:11 pm Post subject:

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I wonder why can you never get green backs? I guess too many americans would mistake them form money...

You can buy green backed cards...
There are 3 types of bicycle backs..

Rider
League
and
Green

you can see and buy the green ones from..
http://users.powernet.co.uk/wizard/backs.html

Personally I prefer rider blues!

personally I prefer red tally-ho decks. No idea why (probably something to do with the joker design though).

you can see and buy the green ones from..
http://users.powernet.co.uk/wizard/backs.html

are these the same as the green tacticals??