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I hav been looking around at reviews and stuff for both of these DVDs, Card Stunts with Gregory Wilson and In The Trenches with Paul Green.

I am going to get them both, but I don't have enough to but them both at the moment, but what one do you think is better, so that I can get the best one first

In the trenches is great.

Ok Thanks I am swaying towards 'In the Trenches' just so I can do Jeopardy

In the Trenches: 1
Card Stunts: 0

In The Trenches is a really good DVD but you have to bear in mind that there's not very much truely original material on there. It's all Paul Green's handlings for other peoples' ideas. Jeopardy is a fantastic effect though and probably worth the price of the DVD anyway.

Most Greg Wilson stuff is fantastic, but I don't really know about Card Stunts, but I've heard good things.

Jeopardy is a fantastic effect though and probably worth the price of the DVD anyway.

I was always put off jeopardy on the grounds that most british people have never seen the American TV program it is formulated around. I concluded that other versions of Shuffle Bored (the effect it is based on) work better for UK audiences?

I could of course be wrong though as I have never actually seen the Jeopardy effect. It is certainly always well spoken of.

And having said all that though I am eagerly looking forward to seeing Paul Green at Blackpool this year. His reputation is awesome.

bananafish wrote:I was always put off jeopardy on the grounds that most british people have never seen the American TV program it is formulated around.

You can just change the patter to the effect

I read your review on In the Trenches Goldfish, and that is what made me think about it. I think I will just get In the Trenches 1st then

Thanks everyone

bananafish wrote:I was always put off jeopardy on the grounds that most british people have never seen the American TV program it is formulated around. I concluded that other versions of Shuffle Bored (the effect it is based on) work better for UK audiences?

That's very true. When I first performed this effect I was using the original patter, and people had no idea what I was going on about, so I changed the presentation to focus purely on the impossibility of the prediction. I should have mentioned that, before I bought In The Trenches I was unaware of the effect Jeopardy was based on, and that's why I'd say it was worth the price.

Don't get me wrong there are some great routines on the DVD but like I said it's not the most original in the world.

Ok thanks

Jeopardy is a good effect that can simply be used as an impossible prediction (doesn't need the Jeopardy tag).
It does have a problem though- people need to be able to perform a riffle shuffle without turning half of the deck over. I have performed this with people who can riffle, but they are obviously not as smooth as we card handlers and they fumble with setting the two halves a bit. If they do happen to accidentally turn one half over, it is without them even realising that they have done this. You must watch them doing their shuffle and be prepared to correct them (although this look a bit suspicious).
If you have Mnemonica and like a stack then Control in Chaos can be done in the same manner but allows the spectator to cut however much they want to.

The rest of In the Trenches is great. Paul Green has clearly put a lot of work into his presentations to make them amusing and entertaining.

His sponge ball routine is excellent and can easily be adapted to a totally in the hands routine.

I don't do a rope routine but I would do the one on the DVD if I did.

Above Beside Below is a very useable coins across (based on Roth's version). I don't do the Jumbo kicker though

If you want a version of Anniversary Waltz with an ungimmicked deck then Coming Together is pretty good (although I prefer Hula Fusion by Carl Andrews)

Mission Impossible shows that an Ambitious Card routine can have a point to it.

There's loads of great stuff on this DVD. It's one of the best that I've ever bought (and you get to watch Paul's classic force in action- it's a thing of beauty)

Cheers

Shanester

ace of kev wrote:I hav been looking around at reviews and stuff for both of these DVDs, Card Stunts with Gregory Wilson and In The Trenches with Paul Green.

I am going to get them both, but I don't have enough to but them both at the moment, but what one do you think is better, so that I can get the best one first

hmm, funny i've been having the same diliema as you, but in the end i decided not to get any of them cause im broke...

Well, I had round about £30 until today, spent about £20 in Glasgow at the Cinema and KFC

I think I still have enough, but the reason that I haven't bought them yet is that I need to use my Dad's credit card, and I keep forgetting to ask him when I am on the phone to him

!!! kfc doesnt cost that much. but the theaters do. they rip you off like 10 dollars US.

ace, open up a paypal account and get their free debit card. hehehe

I saw an effect yesterday that was very similar to Jeopary except that it was accompanied by a small book that read as a story about a baby rabbit that dropped a deck of cards. The story revealed which cards were face up, their colour, suit etc.

Using the book seemed like a nice effect but I couldn;t help wondering if there's sufficient difference for it not be considered a blatent copy.

Have seen this effect and it's ok. I know someone who uses it and he says it gets great reactions (as do all of these effects that are based on shuffle-bored).
Not sure what you mean about it being a rip off, it is a different presentational device thereby making it an original slant on what has become a classic effect.

I have to say that I don't know the origins of Jeopardy or the shuffle for that matter.

I was assuming (which I shouldn't do ) that it was so close to Jeopardy that it could be considered as a copy, but I do see your point about the originality of the book.

I can't quite make my mind up about this one but it was a nice trick. Not mindblowing but nice........