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Well, I Just checked my library today. They do not have any magic videos on coin magic (or any other type) and cannot get them from anotehr library.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... coin+magic


I'll be 18 in feburary 13th. Unfortunately, no one can afford me those coin magic videos which teach the sleights on that video. I really like the effect that he 'shows' both hands 'empty.' For me, its a pain because I do sponge balls and I always have to use misdirection (and most of the time it works, but sometimes it doesn't) to make a coin vanish. He uses a special sleight I believe, where he makes both sides of the hand look empty, very naturally. I can do the classic palm coin roll, etc.


However. I need some help with the following things:
1) I can't do the coin roll down. It's not a practice thing for me. It's that I physically AM NOT ABLE to get my picky to my first finger, see the diagram at www.coinvanish.com .
I can't do it. I've tried, and tried. I can do the first part but my pinky cannot physically toucy my first finger, my hands cannot be wired that way. But I can do the coin roll very smoothly. Any advice? (I do have a squishy squash ball taht I can use..maybe it'll help)

At any rate, I'm hoping someone will :
1) Surprise me with a cheap 5 dollar Bobo's magic video or book (Since I don't have a job, and I'm 17. No luck findong one either.) But I doubt it, and asking for this makes me look selfish.
2) PLease give me a digram of the heal clip (which I've heard is in the video). I'm the type of person that simply cannot learn through text online, I need a diagram, or a picture, or something. Please, someone help me find diagrams on how to do these sleights

Considering I've done years of practice to master the thumb clip with coins, coin across, classic palm, all sponge ball sleights including the change (coin to sponge ball), I really think I can do this.

After all, if I can get by the tough part (Learning how to do sponge ball sleights and coin sleights effortlessly and esaily after years of practice) I'm sure I'm already past the hard part, and now it's just a matter of practicing new material.

Thanks so much.

dont take this the wrong way but why do you feel the need to constantly tell how old you are? do you think it matters? On this forum are people ranging between the ages of 13/14 to 60(ish) but you dont see everyone else doing it
Also please stop asking how do i do this and how do i do that..BUY A BOOK OR DVD! they dont cost that much when you think about it.. you were even given a link to buy an "ebook" version of Bobos Modern Coin magic which costs very little but you still ask. It seems to me that if you can spend money to get online then you can spend money to actually buy stuff.

the_mog wrote:dont take this the wrong way but why do you feel the need to constantly tell how old you are? do you think it matters? On this forum are people ranging between the ages of 13/14 to 60(ish) but you dont see everyone else doing it
Also please stop asking how do i do this and how do i do that..BUY A BOOK OR DVD! they dont cost that much when you think about it.. you were even given a link to buy an "ebook" version of Bobos Modern Coin magic which costs very little but you still ask. It seems to me that if you can spend money to get online then you can spend money to actually buy stuff.

Hehe, because I'm hoping someone will send me something for my birthday!

Well I Just wanted to know if I can do what I can do for 17 is good..I think it is. The reason is, well, I don't have any confidence in myself, and my self esteem si really low (I have depression)

Oh, can't you get Bobo's modern coin magic somewhere online for like 6 bucks? Or was that the ebook?

SpongeBallSlight-of-hand wrote:cheap 5 dollar Bobo's ... book

Amazon's resellers are selling Bobo for under $5
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/offer- ... dition=all

The nature of conjouring is that the only way to learn even the basic stuff like flourishes is to actually pay: I know it's a little frustrating that it's not as easy to learn this stuff for free like, say, juggling. It's a barrier to entry that one just has to accept; you won't be accepted into the clique until you are proven to be competent (for which you have to pay) and you won't find anyone to help because you are not yet part of the clique,

This is a point upon which Tim Ellis has written an interesting article in this month's Magic magazine. He basically asks why it is that it is considered acceptable amongst magicians to _sell_ secrets, but not to give them away for free. For example, it's quite acceptable for me to prepare a video or manuscript explaining how to perform a pass, steal, escape from handcuffs or make a rabbit appear from a hat but it's not acceptable for me to tell you exactly how to do that for no charge. We have all seen posts on this forum that are edited for exposing even the most generic of methods.

In Tim's article he discusses Valentino and his pariah status (with some in the community at least) and points out that Criss Angel sells his secrets on his web site. He also illustrates with an anecdote about how different educational establishments can be either lauded or lambasted for essentially doing the same thing: exposing secrets.

The reason that I mention the article is to point out that free advice and instruction is genuinely hard to get. It is frustrating not being able to afford to purchase the original sources, however, have you thought about joining either an existing group or setting one up with like minded people? I'm sure that with your current skills you could rustle up five tricks to perform at audition. You could just use the first five card tricks from any magic book in the library, as long as you can get through a ten minute performance you might just find that your local group will let you in and from there, well the world is your mollusc.

aporia wrote:

SpongeBallSlight-of-hand wrote:cheap 5 dollar Bobo's ... book

Amazon's resellers are selling Bobo for under $5
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/offer- ... dition=all

The nature of conjouring is that the only way to learn even the basic stuff like flourishes is to actually pay: I know it's a little frustrating that it's not as easy to learn this stuff for free like, say, juggling. It's a barrier to entry that one just has to accept; you won't be accepted into the clique until you are proven to be competent (for which you have to pay) and you won't find anyone to help because you are not yet part of the clique,

This is a point upon which Tim Ellis has written an interesting article in this month's Magic magazine. He basically asks why it is that it is considered acceptable amongst magicians to _sell_ secrets, but not to give them away for free. For example, it's quite acceptable for me to prepare a video or manuscript explaining how to perform a pass, steal, escape from handcuffs or make a rabbit appear from a hat but it's not acceptable for me to tell you exactly how to do that for no charge. We have all seen posts on this forum that are edited for exposing even the most generic of methods.

In Tim's article he discusses Valentino and his pariah status (with some in the community at least) and points out that Criss Angel sells his secrets on his web site. He also illustrates with an anecdote about how different educational establishments can be either lauded or lambasted for essentially doing the same thing: exposing secrets.

The reason that I mention the article is to point out that free advice and instruction is genuinely hard to get. It is frustrating not being able to afford to purchase the original sources, however, have you thought about joining either an existing group or setting one up with like minded people? I'm sure that with your current skills you could rustle up five tricks to perform at audition. You could just use the first five card tricks from any magic book in the library, as long as you can get through a ten minute performance you might just find that your local group will let you in and from there, well the world is your mollusc.

Good idea...where to perform them though?

I think I gotta slow down my spongeball rountine, don't see how I could stretch it to 10 minutes.