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Can people please give me some tips on writing and makin up patter as it is the hardest thing for me in a trick, and i can never think of any ideas.

Wathc other magicians, stands ups and every other type of entertainment you can. Then just plagerise.

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.............. use the search finction at the top. This topic has been discussed on a few occasions with some excellent contributions.

John,

I don't agree. I spend more time in creating my own patter and method, than I do in learning a trick.

I prefer to learn the workings of a new trick and then muse over my own ideas of the patter and story to accompany it. This may take me several weeks and its enhanced by performing in my local pubs and changing and adapting my original ideas as I do so.

I think that the creativity of your own mind and the way you adapt a trick to suit yourself and the way you perform it is as much a creative skill as the actual performance. Don't steal someone else's method, or change it, develop your own. I can't tell you how to do that, just be creative and think of your own ideas. If you can't do that, look at other peoples methods of performing the effect, not to steal it but to develop your own ideas on how to develop your own performance.

Anyone can learn how to do a trick, but good magicians make it exceptional by their own routine and patter.

PM me if you are struggling on this, its an art which takes you from a run of the mill magician to someone who is different

This has been discussed just this week in what I thought was an interesting and enlightening thread. http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic8832.php&highlight= Allen Tipton especially gives what to me feels like very useful advice at the end.

sinajar wrote:

Tenko wrote:John,

I don't agree. I spend more time in creating my own patter and method, than I do in learning a trick.

I think he was joking, hence the laughing smily.

I was half joking. If I hear a good line by someone else and it's something I can carry off I will steal it but of course as with every aspect of this wonderful art try to make thinks your own.