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Whats this sleight called?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pfZyUQ0nPVs

Just wondering if anyone could tell me who made it and some history on it maybe, oh and what it is called.

Thanks

Sorry, I don't know the name of the move. Just a little pointer that you should use two cards with a better contrast if you're making a video next time. Just that, at first I didn't see the difference especially the fact that you were using Tally Vipers as well.

I haven't seen this move before. I would just classify it as a general colour change.

Yeah i just got the vipers in yesterday so wanted to show them off

Is there anyone who has been around in the card scene for a long long time that might be able to shed some light on some history of this sleight.

I'm pretty sure theres a variation of this in one of hugards books, but it will have to wait till tomorrow before I get a chance to look it up. Waking my family to look up a magic reference is probably a no go, despite the fact I did give it due consideration.

If it isn't there, then there are plenty of experienced hands (not me) who can help you out. It is probably too old to get an originator on but there should be a first reference somewhere (goes without saying really).

Out of interest, why not do it from the front of the deck? It doesn't look as if your inserting into a break; unless you are?

Heres me performing a similar move from the front. Sorry about the quality, I haven't had time to record this one on my new setup.

the link u gave me didnt work and nah i got no breaks, i find the card moves down smoother from the back as you can keep the pinky to the side of the deck so the pushed down card doesnt peak out the side, if that makes sense, that and i never thought about doing it from the front, but it seems alot smoother for me doing it from the back for some reason, (after trying the front) its much of a muchness thoe front or back, laymen dont know what pinky breaks etc are so it wouldnt matter, whatever is most comfy for the performer i guess. Are there any other variations on this move? To the method you know that is.

arkos wrote:the link u gave me didnt work

Its a quicktime movie so you need to install quicktime from http://www.apple.com/quicktime. A few of us use it, so it maybe worth having on your machine.

The move I show is an alternative to the one you are presenting, and I thought it would be of interest. It is a more visual change, in that it happens face up. The version I'm doing is face down, where I flip the card over while its stuck in the deck, simpy by waving the deck.

I have a .mov player for windows media player installed its like an addon, and from what your telling me i think my move is differant as it would be a dead give away if you did it face up, so im not sure totally.

arkos wrote:I have a .mov player for windows media player installed its like an addon, and from what your telling me i think my move is differant as it would be a dead give away if you did it face up, so im not sure totally.

The format of the file is unlikely to be the problem, I am using the latest (or near latest) codec, so you will still need to install quicktime (its free!). As for the change, well I disagree the face up change isn't a giveaway. You probably need to take a look to see what I mean.

Yeah i didnt mean the file was the problem, and i hate quicktime :-/ is there anyway you can do an avi or mpg? or would that be a hassle? Its no biggy, im interested thoe.

if i was being picky id say it was a variation of the glide but theres bound to be another name for it.. i use this from the front in my ambitious card routine

Where did u learn the move from?

The Mog wrote:it was a variation of the glide

Okay, now I'm a little worried that from what Mog says, I'm not actually understanding your method. Wouldn't be the first time. For the time being, I'll assume I do understand the method your applying and if so then the reference I have found for it is .....

The Push-in Change, thanks to the wonder that is card college volume 4. Roberto in his usual cross-referencing way says this switch was first described by A. Roterberg in his book New Era Card Tricks, 1897.

pdjamez wrote:

The Mog wrote:it was a variation of the glide

Okay, now I'm a little worried that from what Mog says, I'm not actually understanding your method. Wouldn't be the first time. For the time being, I'll assume I do understand the method your applying and if so then the reference I have found for it is .....

The Push-in Change, thanks to the wonder that is card college volume 4. Roberto in his usual cross-referencing way says this switch was first described by A. Roterberg in his book New Era Card Tricks, 1897.

disregard what i posted! i saw this as a glide variation but i know i shouldnt have called it that( if that makes sense?!?!) The push in change sounds right.
the glide reference was as follows.. in a normal glide the bottom card isnt the one thats used (those that know the glide will know what i mean) where as with this its the bottom card of the double thats not used (thining i should quit now while ive got some credibility left)

the_mog wrote:i saw this as a glide variation but i know i shouldnt have called it that

Mog, Phew, I thought you were refering to LePauls Glide change, but I couldn't see how. Thanks for stopping me pondering my navel further than was required.

For those who are interested, the Push-in Change can also be found in Expert Card Technique, Hugard & Braue.

Thanks