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Postby ace of kev » Apr 27th, '06, 16:52



MiniMindFreak wrote:lol I know photoshop and Flash too
how about I build this site a new free Forum (a good one with flash and stuff) and I get to the restricted area for a start

no I don't do hacking any more
and I'm just 15 years old I don't think anyone will hire me


Flash is slow and takes up a lot of space. I also think it only works in certain places, which isn't very many.

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Postby MiniMindFreak » Apr 27th, '06, 17:46

ok so one way is to use every money benefit on the Web
so Now I get Masseges to my Cell phone and win money out of it
anything else you can find me

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Postby Larry » Apr 27th, '06, 18:43

you could always just learn some more tricks and go out and be an entertainer!
or get a paper round perhaps?

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Postby Tomo » Apr 27th, '06, 18:47

Larry wrote:you could always just learn some more tricks and go out and be an entertainer!
or get a paper round perhaps?

Yup. I remember reading that Sir Alan Sugar started off selling windscreen wiper blades from the back of an old Transit van at markets.

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Postby Craig Browning » Apr 27th, '06, 19:41

Dang buttons hick-uped on me... pardon the double posting. :oops:

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Postby Craig Browning » Apr 27th, '06, 19:41

Hmmm... you love magic and want to work and an Entertainer but you don't have enough tricks :roll: :roll: :roll:

Have you studied the Bill Tarr NOW YOU SEE IT NOW YOU DON'T BOOKS yet?

What about Tarbell? Corinda? Annemann? the Mark Wilson Course?

Any one of these books, most of which cost little to nothing these days, will give you more than sufficient material for an entire career, provided you aren't trying to keep up with everyone else doing all the same trendy effects that come along.

I do full-evening shows using a dozen or so golf pencils, a handful of business cards, maybe an envelope or two and that's about it. The majority of the "foundation" to my act comes straight out of Corinda and Annemann. Before that, my primary reference tools were the Tarbell and Mark Wilson courses.

The problem, typically, is that today's young people don't have those old codger types in a brick & mortar magic shop making them learn how to actually create magic. Our industry is rife with money grabbing shmucks willing to sell a trick to anyone and very few that are willing to kick their patrons in the behind and make them earn their chops a bit.

I'll lay money on it, that you have at least three books on this topic and from those three books you have more than enough material for creating an act/show; you have the resources for creating your foundation you're just not seeing the forest because of the dang trees that are in your way.

Go through those books, videos and whatever else you have and make yourself learn how to put things together in a manner that's logical and entertaining. Force yourself to actually LEARN magic and work with what you have vs. lusting over what you haven't.

There is absolutely no reason for not being able to do a 20-minute set and if you're doing close-up you don't even need that much time; just two or three 5-minute bits.

For me, when the shows aren't coming in or other circumstances in my life get in the way, I fall back on my role as a Reader... it's an easy job that pulls in between $75.00 and as much as $300.00 an hour... even a novice can see the low end of that range if he/she applies himself a little bit and you don't need a pocket full of gimmicks to do it.

Bottom line is, sit back and look at what you do have and then start looking at how to get creative with it. Make yourself get creative, do some experimenting and pay attention to people's reactions, etc. I bet that you will discover that you have more going for you than what you've presently percieved and that it wouldn't be all that difficult to start turning a buck doing magic, even if it's busking on the streets.

It's all a matter of perspective. :wink:

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Postby ian69 » Apr 27th, '06, 21:33

Good post. The more I learn the less I find I need in terms of props.

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Postby Mandrake » Apr 27th, '06, 21:37

Excellent post! I just hope everyone fully appreciates that all this advice came free of charge - I'd hate to find out what it would cost to pay for a Magic advisor/tutor to offer the same advice :D !

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Postby dat8962 » Apr 27th, '06, 23:24

Yes - an excellent post once again from Craig where his experience shows.

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Postby Flash » Apr 28th, '06, 01:23

ace of kev wrote:Flash is slow and takes up a lot of space. I also think it only works in certain places, which isn't very many.


Hey... I don't know I go away for a day and you all start discussing me while I'm out.... :evil:

Kev have you been talking to my agent? :wink:

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Postby leighton » Apr 28th, '06, 10:28

LOL @ Flash :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mini, you have had some great advice there! and from your videos and postings I think you have enough material for some quick shows! Look for talent compertitions in your school or area, there must be some.

Stand outside a resturaunt in your town, then do a trick or 2, to someone sitting in the window, check their reactions, it will boost you confidence!

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Postby trickyricky » Apr 29th, '06, 20:06

Whatever you do, dont sell your body.



Its so hard to do card tricks with just your teeth.

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Postby Tomo » Apr 29th, '06, 20:11

trickyricky wrote:Whatever you do, dont sell your body.

Its so hard to do card tricks with just your teeth.

Yup. It's an easy thing to sell your skin, but far more profitable to rent out your capability. :wink:

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Postby SirRawlins » Apr 30th, '06, 09:44

This is an amusing thread, i cant blieve Siege hasnt bitten harder about MindFreaks comments, The PhpBB framework is a really tight development and works excelently, its simplistic design is the complete key to its success, technicaly it is extremely sound.

As for you being able to build forum's, thats a trick i would love to see, and with regards to flash, its the single worst thing you could possibly ever do for a public based forum, how do you expect spiders and crawlers to trawl the content?... and adding tacky animations isnt going to benefit anyone.

With regards to Hacking, you do realize that guessing someones username and password doesnt constitute hacking, right?

I was speaking to another TM Member privatly that had someone from this board add them in messenger to pester for ripped coppies of DVD's ... when they refused to pass then on they were handed a whole stack abuse and threats of hacking ... not you per chance was it MindFreak?

Maybe its just because its early in the morning and I'm in a grumpy mood! .. but jesus you've managed to anoy me!

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Postby SirRawlins » Apr 30th, '06, 09:46

p.s. Its nice to see your back Symtal, Everyone had been wondering where you had disapeared too.

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