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Hope that calling it what it is isn't breaking forum rules - perhaps a moderator would be so kind as to change the DL word as necessary!

I am fairly new to card handling and I am trying to get down the DL. The 'get ready' stage is the bit which I am most concerned about because it seems a bit cumbersome. Basically I follow the squeeze method in the first few pages of Expert Card Technique by hugard and braue, only it requires 2 hands to get the necessary break.

I found Sankey's clean flip method really nice on Nailed, but he didn't reveal how to set it up, and he is so quick on it that I miss it even at slow speed, so I picked up the 28 revolutionary card magic dvd, which whilst very good and does detail the seesaw method, doesn't say how to get into the position in the first place.

Does he really use spit or is that just a gag? (naive question alert!)

What I wondered is is there a cleaner method than that which hugard reveals, or even a single handed method.

Finding it hard to track down something in detail and the cash pot is running a bit dry, so I don't want to go purchasing endless DVDs or instructions just to find the answer - one simple and sweet suggestion would be appreciated (like which book /dvd i will find my answer in)

Cheers

Royal road to card magic - £10...

Greg Wilson's Double Take dvd - £20 or so...

That ok? Its just getting the knack of it really - Greg Wilson's dvd is well worth the money, theres loads on there with plenty of good camera angles and even some colour changes thrown in too...plus some good card tricks..

The DL is a user-adaptible mechanical move, and being honest it is well worth exploring your own methods.

My own DL looks or seems nothing at all like any other I've seen, but it just feels right. I suggest you work on the basic mechanics (which are VERY simple) and add your own spice, or just keep going until it feels right.

Then, as time goes on, you'll pick up nuances and subtleties which will allow you to progress and refine your DL.

It's pointless, in my opinon, for you to try and run before you can walk. Start with the basic dynamics of a sleight, learn about the basic execution and when you're comfortable, you'll either get your own method down, or be more receptive to someone elses.



At this stage, I'd not worry about spending any money at all. You KNOW the mechanic, and what it achieves... why not experiment for a while?

Hi!
I would recommend you to manage your DL in the same way you manage a card. Both ways need to look the same. There must be no suspicious moves. Always look natural. Remember, no fancy moves, just natural.
Practice that and you´ll find the right path.
Hope this help you.

Salute.

Good post seige! I totally agree with every word!

One of the ways I improved my DL is constantly practising the 'get ready stage' while talking on the phone, taking the train or even while I am conversing with a spectator in the midst of performing a trick that has nothing to do with a DL. It is important to teach yourself to do this without looking and utilizing only your sense of touch. It is important to learn the move like this as you do not want to bring attention to what your are doing when performing. With constant practice, achieving the 'get ready stage' by touch only, will eventually become second nature to you.

As far as doing the complete move goes, Yako has made a very good point. Even as obvious as this may sound you should practice the real move and carefully analyze the subtleties then try and adapt them to your DL.

Another piece of advice I can give you is after you have worked out and practiced a few different ways of performing a DL; go and get some real statistics. Don't be afraid to try out a few different methods with your spectators and see which works best. If someone notices something, don't get upset because that is sometimes the best feedback you are going to get. Just make sure you have an out. In other words if you think that you have been caught, I advise finishing your trick differently which does not involve using a DL or the same effect and make nothing of it - because a layman would rarely know what kind of an effect a DL would accomplish (especially if you did not announce what effect you were going to achieve).

Just my two bobs worth, I hope this helps in your quest.

so whats a DL?

Hello krazy ace,

Sorry, I cannot answer your question directly because it would be considered exposure. But after quickly checking out a few of your posts I will tell you the following:

DL is an acronym for a sleight used in card magic. From your past comments it seems to me that you own quite a lot of Jay Sankey material; so I am sure you will find several of his card tricks where he mentions the name of this sleight being used. If you have a book all on card magic a name matching this acronym will probably be present in the index of the book.

I hope that helps. Sorry, that I cannot be any more specific

Costas

could you then tell me wich books or dvds explain the move?

thanks

Try the book The Royal Road to Card Magic. It is a very good book which teaches a lot of good sleights and tricks to perform. You can purchase this from http://emagictricks.co.uk/product_info. ... ts_id=4525 for £8.99.

i got this ages ago but i need more proffesional ones

I am not sure what your request is. Do you mean to say that you have this book but you were not able to locate the DL sleight? Or do you want advice on purchasing a DVD or Book that contains more advanced sleights with more in depth explanations.

i want advice on purchasing a DVD or Book that contains more advanced sleights with more in depth explanations.

as you said

and i lookin the index and it didn't say dl

anyway what does it stand for?

Here are a few options of dvd's and books that teach some advanced card sleights.

Lennart Green's magic (6 dvds)
Daryl's encyclopedia of card sleights (8 dvds)
Card College by Roberto Giobbi (5 books)
R.Wilson's royal Road to Card Magic (5 dvds)

As far as you not being able to find the DL sleight in your Royal Road to Card Magic book; it might be because you are searching for the actual acronym. DL is an acronym consisting of two words. Just look for a sleight that is made up of two words where the first word starts with a 'D' and the second word starts with an 'L' (eg. D___ L___ ) and I am sure you will find it.

is it just a DL
?????????????????

If there are no other two word sleights starting with those letters in your book then I guess it must be.