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hey guys...im looking for some different ways to control a choosen card to second from top or second from bottom...for example they chose a card replace it and you control it second to top and DL to show their card and then do whatever...i know a few methods like they return it to the top then you shuffle one on to it then injog contine the shuffle and thow the block back on top but im just wondering if there are any methods im forgetting or dont know

thanks guys

Top Card Cover Pass.

normal pass just do the break one down. (applies also to swing swivel undercut etc.)

off the top of my head.

yeah that should do the trick actually..thanks..it just would be a little awkward getting the break one card down..but yeah thats easy enough thanks..

yeah i was just wondering what your favorite methods of doing this so i could find one that i liked a little better

for control second to bottom could you not cull the card then cull an indifferent one.

Riffle shuffle and just make sure the card lands where you want it to be (top or second) and also that the audience don't see what you're riffling. You can take a bit longer for the last few cards (including the chosen card) and just say you're trying to make it even in the riffle.

That's one of my ways of controlling to top.


To control to the bottom, I have no solid suggestion yet.

For controlling to the top possibly one of the easiest and deceptive ways to do this would be to use the marlo tilt.

Pitto wrote:

for control second to bottom could you not cull the card then cull an indifferent one.

Or as you cull the card you want you could buckle the bottom card enough that you can slide the card in second from bottom. Just tried it and it's surprisingly easy to do.

You could even do a turnover drop but drop 2 cards instead of 1.

There are loads of ways to do it. You'll have to let us know which one you settle on.

I was going to mention the Tilt - it may not be suitable depending on what you had in mind but it's very convincing.

There's another move that I like to use that is a bit different but gets you into a DL position from the top of the deck. I'll PM you...

Kati

[quote='bitsnpieces"]Riffle shuffle and just make sure the card lands where you want it to be [/quote]

so what your saying is to control to top then rifle shuffle and make sure only one card goes on top of the choosen card...

thanks for all the suggestions guys...ill probably try a lot of these out today

Nah, you don't have to control to top!

Just have the card replaced into the centre of the pack but angle-jog it to get a break. Then cut the pack at the break to riffle-shuffle, making sure the card ends up 2nd from top

Kati

ohhh..yeah i see...and that could work for second to bottom too

I usually get it to the top first, whatever method, then overhand shuffle it bringing it second from bottom (holding top and bottom card for the first lift), then do it again running the last 3-4 cards individually. For the bottom, just do the first phase of the shuffle. This wouldn't require an injog and it's just two shuffles so it looks convincing.

yeah just control it to top then pick up the deck but retain the top and bottom and continue shuffle (now its 2nd to bottom)...yeah thats a good idea

i think thats what you meant...its kind of hard to explain and understand over a computer

grum7n7 wrote:yeah just control it to top then pick up the deck but retain the top and bottom and continue shuffle (now its 2nd to bottom)...yeah thats a good idea

i think thats what you meant...its kind of hard to explain and understand over a computer

Precisely , I just re-read Royal Road to Card Magic, such a good book!

Maybe I am thinking too simplistic, but if you are performing for non-magicians, why not keep it simple and do some over hand shuffling? Not as flashy, but being simple is an unconscious suggestion that nothing is going on behind the scenes. (sometimes)

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yeah what we were talking was overhand shuffles...but some rifles too

but yeah no need to be too fancy