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hey guys thanks for all the advice and feed back, it's really great. Have got the creative juices flowing Where would i find chair swindle byandy nyman? And what is the effect? And also what is the effect of angels and devils by banachek?

Andy Nyman's Chair Swindle is on his Get Nyman DVD.

It's easy to make the props (not the chairs ) and you'll get everything that you need from your local stationers. It's ideal for inviting a spec onto the stage, just before they assist in another routine.

However, it's over in less than a couple of minutes tops

dat8962 wrote:Andy Nyman's Chair Swindle is on his Get Nyman DVD.

It's easy to make the props (not the chairs ) and you'll get everything that you need from your local stationers. It's ideal for inviting a spec onto the stage, just before they assist in another routine.

However, it's over in less than a couple of minutes tops

That's why I said Chair Swindle followed by the 9 envelope force (from the same DVD).

russellmagic wrote:Where would i find chair swindle byandy nyman? And what is the effect?

Chair Swindle effect is just before you get them to sit down, they choose a chair out of 2, opportunity to change mind, then on one chair is an envelope that says "I made you choose this chair". Then go as if to start trick, before pausing to reveal the envelope on the other chair says "I made you choose the other chair".

russellmagic wrote: And also what is the effect of angels and devils by banachek?

Sorry, was from my poor memory. It's called Ring of Truth (Psi vol 2?). In the text of the video I think he calls it angels and devils but the trick is properly called ring of truth.

Basically two specs decide to lie or tell the truth. One of them has a ring. Either or both can be lying. You decide whether each is lying and which of them has the ring. It's very easy to do - just needs a bit of patter to make it seem more complicated than it is. You can't get it wrong.

That's why I said Chair Swindle followed by the 9 envelope force (from the same DVD).

Well aware fo that!

I do the 9 force all the time at work - 9 x 10p pieces, one has a label on the bottom. I don't mention that, just turn it over at the very end and watch them scrabble through the others as it dawns on them. Love it.