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I am trying to make up some outdoor effects that include muscle reading, can you guys give me some tips of where this would be a good place to use muscle reading?

thanks

have a spectator hide an $100 bill...and if you fint it.. you'll keep it;)

i doubt the spectaor would do that, but i ment difficult challanges, like... i dunno the criss angel hellstronism, hides the keys, and if he finds them he gets a 100 grand viper

it could be quite as hard to find the $100 bill

Firstly, just based on what you've posted I KNOW you know little to nothing about doing solid MR work and secondly, you have little to no real world experience in doing it. So before you start shooting your mouth off over such fantasies as conning someone out of a Viper, I'd suggest you spend so, the next decade perfecting your skill in the technique.

Kreskin has used the equivlent to locating that suggested $100.00 bill in the form of finding the $25,000.00 pay check he's earned, for the past 40 some odd years and only missed on it twice. I think he's found far more than one or two $100k sportscars over the years doing such.

Can you write a persons name using MR?

I don't mean locate the letters on a grid as certain videos & books suggests, I mean let a patron hold your hand and as they visualize a name YOU WRITE IT ON A PIECE OF PAPER.

That was one of my biggest PR bits for years back in the day when I was doing MR work almost every waking hour of the day 7 days a week (as a Reader) but I can assure you, like the stunts of Wolf Messing, this is very much an ADVANCED demonstration that takes YEARs to learn. It is likewise the kind of reputation thing that takes years to earn.

So, the moral of the story is; if you want to look like a fool (and you've done a great job of laying the foundation to that premise in this question and boast) continue moving along your present course. BUT, if you want to be seen as someone with legit skill and a unique talent PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE and SHUT YOUR BIG MOUTH long enough to learn enough so you can actually obtain that dream you've got stuck in your head right now.

Harsh?

Yes, I am being very harsh. You need the cold water of reality splashed on you face by someone that not just loves magic, but someone that is very guarded over this particular technique and don't take lightly to people that (pardon the expression) half-ass-it and belittle it with such questionable fantasies (and you need to admit, conning someone out of a Viper when you're an absolute nobody is quite the fantasy... especially when you don't want to start with the hair pins and C-notes so as to work you way up to the level of being worthy of such a prize).

I hope you can understand what I've said and why and know that it's not a personal attack as much as it is a "perspective" everyone needs to digest when it comes to learning a genuinely empowering skill that is as powerful as MR can be.

What was it Peter Parker's Uncle said? "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility..."

This is something few pause long enough to consider in today's world, it would seem

no i cant write a persons name using mr, i can just sense the sleight twitch to where they do not want me to go, and i have done this a few times, but its hard with people that are too good bluffing

then create a nice pattern to the effect...connect with them, and then..they wouldn't bluff you

M4G1C14N wrote:no i cant write a persons name using mr, i can just sense the sleight twitch to where they do not want me to go, and i have done this a few times, but its hard with people that are too good bluffing

Good... now you're ready to learn!

Do you have the Banachek book & video on this technique? If not, get them!

Somewhere around here I listed the primary books that deal with this skill (Hellstromism by Robert Nelson, Contact Mind Reading by Shantz, and the Satori book) There have been a few other videos and books put out by money-grabbers that didn't even have the integrity to deliver a halfway decent product for the over inflated price being asked... STAY AWAY FROM THEM! You only need the books I've listed above, the Banachek video and time.

Not everyone can learn this skill as readily as others. You will have "hot" days as well as "cold" days when it comes to your own ability in picking up cues. But, if you work on it EVERY DAY for at least two or three hours a day, you can obtain a decent working knowledge that will allow you to do some amazing things.

I know what you're all thinking, "How can you possibly practice it for two or three hours a day?"
Well, there are many ways to do this but I'm not going to give the milk away for free. In other words, be patient the book will be out soon!

In the meantime THINK... look for opportunities for using it, for working with a Pendulum for an example, observational techniques used in non-contact demonstrations, etc.

One very important thing I will mention
DON'T THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, JUST DO IT!

90% of those that screw up with MR tests do so because they let their logical mind interfere and thus, they try to guess about things vs. following the cues and simply going with the flow. I know it's hard to do, but learn to turn off your head when you attempt this kind of thing and you will be able to move further, faster adn with less "probing".

reader_of_thought wrote:Corinda's "13 Steps to Mentalism" has a good beginner's treatise on muscle reading as well.

Not to split hairs or create a problem, but Corinda barely mentions this and Pocket Writing amongst a few other things that have come to know a greater sense of "coverage" in years since. Even in his day, this wasn't an overly researched or discussed field.

Now, rather than making your first post a statement for the sake of making a statement, why don't my go over and introduce yourself so we can understand better where you're coming from, your experience level, etc.

Yes, I'm the grumpy old bear the grumbles when people don't take pause and consider what they are saying based on what's already been said, etc.
I don't do this to be mean, only to encourage folks to use that grey stuff between their ears before engaging the keyboard.

Welcome to the forum and consider yourself initiated

This might just be because I have just come out of the worst gig I've ever done, but does anyone else think that everything Craig says applies to them?

P.S. The horrible thing is that the audience loved it. Argh!

giznorm wrote:This might just be because I have just come out of the worst gig I've ever done, but does anyone else think that everything Craig says applies to them?

P.S. The horrible thing is that the audience loved it. Argh!

Ok... you're starting to sound like my kids (and several of my students).

I had a teacher once that had a similar affect on me. His advice was "Dont' accept the guilt if it's not yours to own...."

Sounds strange but if you think about it, it starts making sense.

Just finished reading Banachek's book back to back and then flipped it over and read that back to back too! The history of MR is fascinating. He advises LOTS of practice with a good friend and then making your first attempts modest, and only then building to bigger applications. This is very powerful stuff and if done properly and judiciously, will create a huge reaction.

Not sure why the initial query was about MR outside as there are countless examples from the history of MR that have been done outside.

DrTodd wrote:Just finished reading Banachek's book back to back and then flipped it over and read that back to back too! The history of MR is fascinating. He advises LOTS of practice with a good friend and then making your first attempts modest, and only then building to bigger applications. This is very powerful stuff and if done properly and judiciously, will create a huge reaction.

Actually, you can create your own religion... that's how potent this stuff can be.

Not sure why the initial query was about MR outside as there are countless examples from the history of MR that have been done outside.

I think that stems from not knowing entirely what one is talking about and making an attempt to get someone to slip up and spill details as to how to do it.