Help ? N00B Alert !

Struggling with an effect? Any tips (without giving too much away!) you'd like to share?

Moderators: nickj, Lady of Mystery, Mandrake, bananafish, support

Help ? N00B Alert !

Postby Magic-N00B » Jun 6th, '06, 00:41



I apologize Darrel :oops:

Ok this is what I'm interested in. I'm interested in all the big tricks, the levitations and stuff what the audience think is absolutely impossible. I know i hafta learn basic tricks first and build up to the bigger tricks, but that's what I'm interested in.

Thanks

Magic-N00B
Junior Member
 
Posts: 15
Joined: Jun 6th, '06, 00:38

Postby grum7n7 » Jun 6th, '06, 00:53

so whats your question :?:

User avatar
grum7n7
Preferred Member
 
Posts: 227
Joined: Apr 9th, '06, 22:48
Location: Vermont, US (17:AH/SH)

Postby Miles More Magic » Jun 6th, '06, 01:12

grum7n7 wrote:so whats your question :?:


He wants to know where he can buy books, dvd's etc to learn.

I PM'd him, because the first post could have been taken as a " want it for free" post, but as he sounded genuine, I suggested he change it a bit.

So the question is, where can I buy info to perform illusions.

OK, the last part shows you have the right idea.

You need to know the basic sleights etc first.

Learn how to PERFORM these, after lots of practise.

I made a mistake in buying lots of illusion stuff when I started.
It cost a fortune and isn't used as I do childrens shows now.

You may find that when you start, you have a feel for a certain type of magic, which may not be illusions.

My advice would be to buy " Mark Wilsons Complete Course In Magic."

It will set you back between £10 and £20, and will be the best thing you can buy.

It will teach you:

Coins, cards, rope, silks, everyday objects, how to perform, as well as giving some details on illusion effects.

It is ideal for beginners or Pros, teaching a whole range of magic.

For what you want, you wont do better.

I found mine for £10 in a local book shop. It might take a bit of finding, or you might be able to order it.

If you do manage to get it, PM me anytime and I will be able to go through how best to learn from it.

PS, apology not needed. Like I said, you seemed genuine, but people could have got the wrong idea from your origional post. Glad to help.

User avatar
Miles More Magic
Senior Member
 
Posts: 827
Joined: Mar 20th, '06, 22:51
Location: 43AH, Herts

Postby Farlsborough » Jun 6th, '06, 01:20

You've answered you're own non-question there, my friend. Funnily enough I advise you to... learn basic tricks first, and work your way up :roll:

Seriously though, the way you've phrased that, I can read between the lines slightly... "I want to learn the big tricks, and I know you'll tell me to start small but I don't wanna."

(All this has been said many times on this forum; I just thought I'd save the old hands from wearing out their keyboards...)

Here's the facts: It isn't simply learning a few small tricks that help you to progress, it's learning principles and styles, and gaining experience.

Learning a card trick or two won't really help you on your way to what you want per se, but learning card tricks and therefore how to use principles like misdirection will. Even if you're given any number of magic "secrets", they will be absolutely useless to you - you will amaze no one and severely annoy many others - if you have not built up a working understanding of not just how to do it, but how to pull it off. I could learn the most amazing card sleight in the world, or buy the most insane gadget - if I don't understand the basic principles, don't present it properly, don't know the patter, it will fool no one. And not only will you look a t*t, you'll stop everyone who sees it from enjoying that trick, even when performed properly.

In summary - if you start from the bottom and put in a bit of effort, you will rapidly find you surprise even yourself with your abilities. If you have a lazy attitude to magic, you will become disillusioned, disappointed, "dissed" (by your mates) and quite possibly disassembled by other magicians.

Welcome to the boards
:D

Farlsborough
 

Postby Misanthropy » Jun 6th, '06, 01:32

and Paul Zenon's street magic book comes highly recommended as well :D

Misanthropy
Senior Member
 
Posts: 920
Joined: Apr 28th, '06, 00:39
Location: Surrey, UK (27:AH)

Postby Magic-N00B » Jun 6th, '06, 02:25

Thanks for all the fast replies. I have a card trick book but i don't really understand it and i will get to a point were i will have read the same trick over and over practicing yet i still don't understand, throw the book at my wall and go in a tantrum.

Magic-N00B
Junior Member
 
Posts: 15
Joined: Jun 6th, '06, 00:38

Postby katrielalex » Jun 6th, '06, 09:01

I find that with a lot of card magic books actually - when learning sleights it is very hard to describe the actual move. Once you have some basic sleights down you can usually relate newer ones in some way to the old ones which I find makes them easier to learn.

Might I recommend Born to Perform? It's the DVD in my signature, and it's a beginner's guide to card magic. Highly recommended!

Kati

In hibernation but half awake - will stick my nose in every so often!
User avatar
katrielalex
Elite Member
 
Posts: 2545
Joined: Feb 5th, '05, 22:32
Location: 16:AH (in hibernation! will try to check up here every so often though)

Postby trickyricky » Jun 6th, '06, 10:27

Hi there!

If you're having trouble with books, you might prefer DVDs. The Royal Road to Card Magic DVD is a highly recommended DVD. It is the same as the book version but easier to learn from because you can see the move rather than try to understand it from a description.

Kati - are you getting commission from you sig yet? :lol:

Rich

I was born with Multiple Personality Disorder. Luckily, they are all me, they just dont always get along...
User avatar
trickyricky
Senior Member
 
Posts: 911
Joined: Aug 10th, '05, 00:21
Location: Cannock! (22:AH)

Postby katrielalex » Jun 6th, '06, 10:29

No :cry: Maybe I should try!

Kati

In hibernation but half awake - will stick my nose in every so often!
User avatar
katrielalex
Elite Member
 
Posts: 2545
Joined: Feb 5th, '05, 22:32
Location: 16:AH (in hibernation! will try to check up here every so often though)

Postby Magic-N00B » Jun 6th, '06, 14:21

Yer ive bin lookin at the book Mark Wilsons Complete Course In Magic on amazon and seen all the chapters n stuff, looks very good. Think i'll get that :D

Magic-N00B
Junior Member
 
Posts: 15
Joined: Jun 6th, '06, 00:38

Postby Pitto » Jun 6th, '06, 14:55

That would be an excellent move! Mark Wilson's book is excellent!

Cheers,

Chris Pitt (AKA Pitto)

"If in doubt - be weird" Jay Sankey
Pitto
Senior Member
 
Posts: 691
Joined: Nov 1st, '05, 23:08
Location: Stockport (16:AH)

Postby Pcwizme » Jun 6th, '06, 15:48

mark wilsons book is one of the best buys tyou can make as it shows cards and stuff right thru to some of the larger on stage stuff!

PCWIZME thats me!!

Need a prop? have an idea for a trick but cant work it out? Ask me via PM and ill have a look for you
User avatar
Pcwizme
Senior Member
 
Posts: 552
Joined: Jan 6th, '04, 12:03
Location: London (24:AH/CW)

Postby Stephen Ward » Jun 6th, '06, 15:52

Just to agree with the above it is a wonderful book and a great course in magic. The other great reading in the Tarbell course in magic but at 8 seperate books it can be expensive.

Stephen Ward
Veteran Member
 
Posts: 5848
Joined: Mar 23rd, '05, 16:21
Location: Lowestoft, UK (44:CP)

Postby Dave S » Jun 6th, '06, 16:04

Not to put a downer on anything, but I didn't actually find the book that great. I got it though after I had been interested in magic for quite a while and had quite a few books and dvd's already.

It is however a good introduction to the different genres of magic and by geting the book, you can see what area you want to progress in.

Dave S
Full Member
 
Posts: 71
Joined: May 31st, '06, 12:24


Return to Support & Tips

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

cron