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Postby Pcwizme » Jun 16th, '06, 13:57



billy goat = coat / jacket
apple's / apples and pears = stairs
bum bag = fanny pack
Never say to a girl "nice fanny" as it will earn you a slap and probibly worse

we use the term Bum,

er other silly stuff?

Car= automoblie
Cash machine / hole in the wall = ATM


willl add more later

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Postby magicmonkey » Jun 16th, '06, 13:59

I love all these little differences within what is supposedly the same language

It's the Anglo/US confusion with the word fanny that gets me every time
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"no, you're about 2 inches out mate"

The dogs bo**ocks is kind of misunderstood too

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Postby Stephen Ward » Jun 16th, '06, 14:11

Note to UK members, when in the USA never ask to 'bum a fag' :oops:

Reminds me of the episode in Friends "You have made half an English triffle and half a shepard's pie" :lol:

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Postby seige » Jun 16th, '06, 15:23

In concurrance with the above reviews, can I just mention:

1. The original 'Omen' film is my favourite ever movie. I even wrote an effect based on it, which is selling rather well since the 2006 movie came out!

2. This new movie in no way captures the horror of the original. No suspense, no drama. And no 'Old Spice' theme tune.

3. The actors chosen for the new movie are part of what let's it down. No offence, actors!

4. The major downfall of this movie is that however much I try and view it as a standalone, it is hard not to compare it with the original. And really, so far as I can see, there is no comparison.

There are sequels to the original Omen. All of which are excellent too. I just do hope the makers of the new version don't waste their time and effort trying to copy them as well.

The bottom line for me is that I first saw this movie in about 1982, at the tender age of around 10 years old. It is something which has stuck with me for all my life, and even brought me to wanting to read the Bible.
So many of the subtle things from the original which I found scary have been a reference point to what I look for in a good horror movie these days.

Sadly, for me, this new movie didn't cut any mustard whatsoever. Both Mrs Seige and myself left the cinema feeling like we'd just been to the dentist to have our teeth pulled.

Perhaps if I'd not have been such a huge fan of the original, I'd have enjoyed it more. But I feel this latest guff attempt to re-kindle the excitement which the originals caused. Hollywood, or bust.

Please, Mr American Film Producers! Leave our little Japanese, British and European masterpieces alone, and go get off your lazy butts and write something original.

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Postby IAIN » Jun 16th, '06, 15:32

im surprised no one has tried re-doing The Medusa Touch...not that they could do it justice, no other actor has ever compaired to Richard Burton in my opinion...

i didnt see the usa version - but i bet the remake of Dark Water is apalling...look what they did with Get Carter...

Hmm what else...do you remember these...
Harlequin (a 70s take on Rasputin with Robert Powell)
Magic (the great Anthony Hopkins and the sinister dummy)
Equus (another Dickie Burton film)
Without a Clue (sherklock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper - christopher plummer, james mason, john gielgud and Donald Sutherland)

Have you noticed how alot of victorians look like Donald Sutherland?

i would attempt to buy a fire-arm if anyone ever dares to remake Withnail & I...

aaah, might forget the footie now and have a film weekend...

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Postby Stephen Ward » Jun 16th, '06, 15:46

I did not like the re-makes of the 'ring' my favourite Japanese films were ruined.

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Postby seige » Jun 16th, '06, 16:28

The Ring, Ju-On, Dark Water, etc. all classic Japanese horror ruined by the premise that a remake was required.

Why do they do it?

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Postby Stephen Ward » Jun 16th, '06, 16:39

Because it is easy money :lol: I watch a lot of japanese horrors and collect the DVDs and i have never seen a remake that matches the original. The original ring movies were some of the scariest films i have ever seen :shock:. However the Hollywood remakes just didn't match.

I cannot see the point in remakes such as the Italian Job, planet of the apes etc. It is just lazy film making, get some new ideas guys.

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Postby Mandrake » Jun 16th, '06, 16:45

And if they're not doing crummy remakes, they're taking iconic well-loved standards and turning them into very, very poor feature films. Two examples: Thunderbirds and The Avengers. I guess the list is much longer than that but my basic message is 'Leave our classics alone and go film something new - you can do it guys'!

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Postby seige » Jun 16th, '06, 17:56

stephenmagic wrote:Because it is easy money :lol: I watch a lot of japanese horrors ...


Oooooh!

That's 2 or more things we now have in common, o kindred spirit!

My personal faves in the 'non-mainstream' are Irreversible (French movie), the ORIGINAL Ju-on(the Grudge) and Ichi the Killer.

I am an admirer of artistic horror, and the Japanese and Euro stuff surpasses the schlock-horror and slasher stuff which Hollywood chucks out.

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Postby Tomo » Jun 16th, '06, 18:03

stephenmagic wrote:I watch a lot of japanese horrors and collect the DVDs and i have never seen a remake that matches the original.

What's Up Tigerlilly was quite good, though. Not so much a remake as anarchy in the voiceover department.

(Anarchy, Tomo. It's spelt 'anarchy', not 'narchy'!)

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Postby Stephen Ward » Jun 16th, '06, 18:25

The original Grudge was great. There's another one.. erm was it called 'the eye'. I have so many that i forget titles.

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Postby Taiven_Grant » Jun 16th, '06, 18:32

Talking of foreign horror movies, I bought 'switchblade romance' the other day. Kinda gross, and a little lacking in plot, but I enjoyed it.

Hollywood horror movies are kind of boring, on the surface they make you jump but they don't leave you with any lasting uneasyness which is the best part of horror movies! The worst Hollywood movie I saw recently was House of Wax, truly awful.

British horror films are excellent, 28 days later, Creep and The Descent are amazing films. I firmly imbedded my nails in my boyfriend's arm during the Descent. Another great horror related British film is Shaun of the Dead :D

I won't pay the rediculous ammount of money to see The Omen at the cinema (£6.00 :shock: ) because personally I didn't like the original (don't hurt me!) and I've read everywhere that this movie brings nothing new to the table.

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Postby EckoZero » Jun 16th, '06, 19:01

British horror films are made with (typically) a very small budget. Hence they have to be short and to the point. Probably why The Descent rates as my favourite horror movie of all time.
Made me think twice about ever going potholing again I can tell you!

Asian and European horrors are also top class stuf, A Tale Of Two Sisters was quite possibly the weirdest and creepiest Korean movie I have ever seen! And I too have seen Switchblade Romance. It was slasher horror, with a point. Which made a nice change.

Every now and then a Hollywood horror movie comes along that is top class stuff, however, it's normally written by someone who's doing it for the sheer love of it. George A Romero's Land Of The Dead anyone? (Not to mention the other three superb "Of The Dead" films!)


The problem with Hollywood is they have a whole set of "rules" that they have to stick to. These are known as Hollywood conventions, and generally make every American film (aside from some small plot changes) exactly the same.

I for one will not be seeing the new Omen.
I've seen the three originals and absolutely love them to bits, but American horror remakes just don't do it for me.

Amityville was a great movie, one I recommended to several people.
The remake, "Amityville Horror" was shockingly bad.
I've heard the remake of the Omen is a worse butchering than Amityvile!


By the by... all the subsequent Amityvilles were awful.
A film based on a clock taken from the house? What the hell... :shock:

Just my thoughts on horror in general, and the reason I WONT be going to see the new Omen film

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