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Just got it two days ago, practiced for a couple hours and performed it the next day for a friend. I was surprised when he didn't seem impressed at all. I asked him if i had done anything suspicious or if he saw something out of place and he said no, just that the trick was pretty easy to figure out. I was really surprised by this. Has anyone else gotten not so great reactions from the trick.

sauruman wrote:Just got it two days ago, practiced for a couple hours and performed it the next day for a friend. I was surprised when he didn't seem impressed at all. I asked him if i had done anything suspicious or if he saw something out of place and he said no, just that the trick was pretty easy to figure out. I was really surprised by this. Has anyone else gotten not so great reactions from the trick.

I think when you do tricks for friends, because they know you, they know that you aren't some mysterious magical person with weird powers, so their reactions tend to be nonchalant... but when you perform for people whom you don't know well or don't know at all, the fact that they don't know you adds to the mystery of the trick and makes the reactions better.

rabbit wrote:

sauruman wrote:Just got it two days ago, practiced for a couple hours and performed it the next day for a friend. I was surprised when he didn't seem impressed at all. I asked him if i had done anything suspicious or if he saw something out of place and he said no, just that the trick was pretty easy to figure out. I was really surprised by this. Has anyone else gotten not so great reactions from the trick.

I think when you do tricks for friends, because they know you, they know that you aren't some mysterious magical person with weird powers, so their reactions tend to be nonchalant... but when you perform for people whom you don't know well or don't know at all, the fact that they don't know you adds to the mystery of the trick and makes the reactions better.

perhaps but i had never before performed magic for that particular friend.

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rabbit wrote:

sauruman wrote:Just got it two days ago, practiced for a couple hours and performed it the next day for a friend. I was surprised when he didn't seem impressed at all. I asked him if i had done anything suspicious or if he saw something out of place and he said no, just that the trick was pretty easy to figure out. I was really surprised by this. Has anyone else gotten not so great reactions from the trick.

I think when you do tricks for friends, because they know you, they know that you aren't some mysterious magical person with weird powers, so their reactions tend to be nonchalant... but when you perform for people whom you don't know well or don't know at all, the fact that they don't know you adds to the mystery of the trick and makes the reactions better.

perhaps but i had never before performed magic for that particular friend.

I don't think having done that or not has anything to do with it, I think it's just the fact that they know you to begin with, I performed a trick for one of my friends and pulled it off perfect, he had no clue how I did it, and he didn't care either.

I guess some people are just like that. Maybe he wanted to appear cool and not go nuts even though he was seriously impressed. I suck (and shake) when performing to a certain friend of mine, and he always goes away groaning about how lame the trick was etc. But the next time we meet, he'll be asking me if I have anything new to show him.

Anyway, maybe you need more practice to make all the moves smooth and everything. Just in case that contributed to the reaction (or lack thereof) of your friend. Don't worry about it!

dont worry about it, i get this kind of reaction alot when i do this trick. well not alot, but some people just figure it out on the spot. others become paralyzed from shock. it differs from person to person.

learning how to perform an effect is NOT just learning about the moves that are needed. It's as much, and in some cases more about the presentation and I would suggest this is perhaps the reason why you failed on this occasion to get the desired reaction.

I recall that when I purchased this I too learnt the moves in a couple of hours but I didn't perform it to anyone for around four to five weeks. I just kept perfecting the whole effect, patter and all.

I too showed it first to some friends who know me very well and they were literally gob smacked.

I read many posts on TM from people, generally younger members who don't get the desired reactions, thinking that they have learnt a trick in a few hours. Think of your magic in the same light as a bottle of Grolsh - STOP, slow down and don't it! It takes time for it to brew

Seriously, think about the WHOLE effect you're going to perform, including what other effects it will work with. Only then will you begin to get the applause that you deserve.

I'm with dat here.
I got this trick a while back and showed everyone what was essentially a new set of cool moves. Reactions were mediocre at best.

So I stopped performing it for a while, until one day I saw opportunity as a mate of mine I was hanging out with had a can of coke that he had yet to open. As he went to open it I said "STOP!" and he looked at me surprised. I took the can off him and put it on the nearby wall, claiming I was about to change the contents into pepsi (Little Nicky anyone? ). Obviously I did no such thing, so leaving the can on the wall I borrowed a coin, and did a really lame coin vanish. "and now this ten pence pie4ce disappers! Where is it?" obviously he said it was in my other hand. I said "No it's not. It's in my other hand!". Cue groan of "dude you suck".
"Alright alright alright..." as i went over to the coke can. "But what if i were to really make it vanish...?"
Performd Sinful to a somewhat gobsmacked mate who then proceeded to tell just about everyone he knew.

It's currently my most requested trick at college

thanks for the pointers, i guess it really about finding the right situations to really catch everyone off guard.

dat8962 wrote:learning how to perform an effect is NOT just learning about the moves that are needed. It's as much, and in some cases more about the presentation and I would suggest this is perhaps the reason why you failed on this occasion to get the desired reaction.

I recall that when I purchased this I too learnt the moves in a couple of hours but I didn't perform it to anyone for around four to five weeks. I just kept perfecting the whole effect, patter and all.

I too showed it first to some friends who know me very well and they were literally gob smacked.

I read many posts on TM from people, generally younger members who don't get the desired reactions, thinking that they have learnt a trick in a few hours. Think of your magic in the same light as a bottle of Grolsh - STOP, slow down and don't it! It takes time for it to brew

Seriously, think about the WHOLE effect you're going to perform, including what other effects it will work with. Only then will you begin to get the applause that you deserve.

so do you think it works much better when combined with another effect?

No - not necessarily. The effect can be just as powerful when performed on it's own but it needs the right setting in my opinion to make it look and importantly FEEL spontaneous.

However, some of us are into performing longer routines that are made up of a number of effects and it's in this context that you should take my comment.

For an example, you could do a coin routine that leaves you with the coin that you then use for sinful. The impact will not be the same if you perform a card trick and then suddenly switch, if you see what I mean.

My whole point was whichever way you perform this routine make sure that you nail the WHOLE presentation.

Agreed. To me its all about the presentation. When I first performed this, I did not have the patter down. So then I went to the demo of Houchin doing it, and memorized his patter. I dont repeat it verbatum, but pretty close. Since then, everything just flows better, and it has more impact. The performance sells the magic.

different reactions from different people... i showed my sister this trick, and she was astonished. then i showed my bro the trick, and he was all 'meh, its alright' . if you show this trick to a very logical person, that realizes that unless you defy the laws of physics, you cant actually penitrate a soda can, then its going to be a dud.

rabbit wrote:

sauruman wrote:Just got it two days ago, practiced for a couple hours and performed it the next day for a friend. I was surprised when he didn't seem impressed at all. I asked him if i had done anything suspicious or if he saw something out of place and he said no, just that the trick was pretty easy to figure out. I was really surprised by this. Has anyone else gotten not so great reactions from the trick.

I think when you do tricks for friends, because they know you, they know that you aren't some mysterious magical person with weird powers, so their reactions tend to be nonchalant... but when you perform for people whom you don't know well or don't know at all, the fact that they don't know you adds to the mystery of the trick and makes the reactions better.

Rabbit You just made my day
when I perform to my best friend
he figuers the trick out even if it was perfect
so I asked him how do you do it (I was amazed) he said exactly what you said
I know your not a wizerd or something
so I just look at the moves
I don't care what the effect it
since then he never saw any of my tricks again
the END

dat8962 wrote:No - not necessarily. The effect can be just as powerful when performed on it's own but it needs the right setting in my opinion to make it look and importantly FEEL spontaneous.

However, some of us are into performing longer routines that are made up of a number of effects and it's in this context that you should take my comment.

For an example, you could do a coin routine that leaves you with the coin that you then use for sinful. The impact will not be the same if you perform a card trick and then suddenly switch, if you see what I mean.

My whole point was whichever way you perform this routine make sure that you nail the WHOLE presentation.

aha i understand, i guess i was trying to force the trick on too much. Gotta wait till the opportune moment eh. As far as combining it with some coin magic, id need to learn some beforehand cause all ive been practicing is card magic so far. I guess it is time for me to expand my horizons. Is coin magic harder than card magic? Any tips would be helpful thanks.