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Craig Browning wrote:

seksiwill wrote:I do appreciate your reply Taneous but I think the same thing would happen with other tricks as well. I'm actually looking for these type of tricks for my PUA (Pick up Artist) game opposed to holding shows or doing magic on the street or anything.

I have no clue as to what a PUA is but I do know that magic, especially something as potentially DANGEROUS as Electric Touch, has no place in such a world. IT IS NOT A PRACTICAL JOKE and I fear that this is the manner in which you intend to exploit it -- you might as well go purchase a taser, in that a "taste" of what this effect does won't be enough in the long run.

They level of immaturity and irresponsibility being suggested in this thread around such a piece is disgusting, but more to the point, what is being suggested reveal such a lack of respect towards magic on the whole, that I'm surprised you went this deep into a thread before getting your wrist politely slapped by someone as kind-hearted as Taneous (if you haven't noticed, I'm not quite as kind or gentle... a bit more too the point.)

If you want to learn how to do magic, then stick around and learn. But if your only goals in life are to be a practical joker and the mythical "life of the party" by doing bad tricks, I think you may want to do some re-evaluation about what's important in life and why you have an interest in this, that or the other. Don't do things just because you can or, as you've intimated "you can afford to do so". Our world is filled with far too many poor little rich-kids who had mummy and daddy go out and drop $100,000.00 on a John Gaughan Magic Kit so they'd think themselves "professionals" and "great"... most of them fail however due to the lack of practical experience and the willingness to take direction and thus LEARN the craft they've invested so much money into.

Think about it.

seksiwill wrote:"I have no clue as to what a PUA is but I do know that magic, especially something as potentially DANGEROUS as Electric Touch, has no place in such a world."

You don't even know what PUA is and already it dosen't belong in this world..hmm

"They level of immaturity and irresponsibility being suggested in this thread around such a piece is disgusting, but more to the point, what is being suggested reveal such a lack of respect towards magic on the whole"

How so? I stated my purposes were not to perform at shows or even make street magic. I do this because simple props impress simple minds. I have as much as a reason to buy it as anyone else.

"that I'm surprised you went this deep into a thread before getting your wrist politely slapped by someone as kind-hearted as Taneous (if you haven't noticed, I'm not quite as kind or gentle... a bit more too the point.)"

Yeah it would also appear that you have no people skills as well since you couldn't really make a single useful point throughout a 3 paragraph response.

"If you want to learn how to do magic, then stick around and learn."

Did I state I wanted to learn Magic? I'm pretty sure I stated the exact opposite. I have my practice you have yours. You come to my practice i'll point you in the right direction without giving you a severe "slap on the wrist" as you so put it.

"Don't do things just because you can or, as you've intimated "you can afford to do so". Our world is filled with far too many poor little rich-kids who had mummy and daddy go out and drop $100,000.00 on a John Gaughan Magic Kit"

Wow great helpful statement..another assumption but by this point unexpected.

"most of them fail however due to the lack of practical experience and the willingness to take direction and thus LEARN the craft they've invested so much money into."

I don't see how this is possible if for one you don't understand my purpose and two once you understand the trick you understand it. How would I fail if i've completed the goal in buying the item?

Thanks for all the helpful info though Craig I'm sure with your hardass tendencies you'll be a Mod in no time!

EckoZero wrote:

seksiwill wrote:"I have no clue as to what a PUA is but I do know that magic, especially something as potentially DANGEROUS as Electric Touch, has no place in such a world."

You don't even know what PUA is and already it dosen't belong in this world..hmm

The point he was making is that it is not a toy, it is very dangerous unless used properly with careful restraint anywhere. Even in a world he knows nothing about, it is a safe assumption that a dangerous item is still a dangerous item.
Is a gun only dangerous in a soldiers hand? No.
I know nothing about gang warfare, but I'm fairly sure a gun is still dangerous there

"They level of immaturity and irresponsibility being suggested in this thread around such a piece is disgusting, but more to the point, what is being suggested reveal such a lack of respect towards magic on the whole"

How so? I stated my purposes were not to perform at shows or even make street magic. I do this because simple props impress simple minds. I have as much as a reason to buy it as anyone else.

If you want to impress people, buy something that doesn't have the potential to kill them.

"that I'm surprised you went this deep into a thread before getting your wrist politely slapped by someone as kind-hearted as Taneous (if you haven't noticed, I'm not quite as kind or gentle... a bit more too the point.)"

Yeah it would also appear that you have no people skills as well since you couldn't really make a single useful point throughout a 3 paragraph response.

And being rude to people you know nothing about shows off your host of people skills?

"If you want to learn how to do magic, then stick around and learn."

Did I state I wanted to learn Magic? I'm pretty sure I stated the exact opposite. I have my practice you have yours. You come to my practice i'll point you in the right direction without giving you a severe "slap on the wrist" as you so put it.

Once again, this is the point about it being a tool for professionals, not a toy for people who want to impress.

"Don't do things just because you can or, as you've intimated "you can afford to do so". Our world is filled with far too many poor little rich-kids who had mummy and daddy go out and drop $100,000.00 on a John Gaughan Magic Kit"

Wow great helpful statement..another assumption but by this point unexpected.

You yourself stated that money was no problem to you

"most of them fail however due to the lack of practical experience and the willingness to take direction and thus LEARN the craft they've invested so much money into."

I don't see how this is possible if for one you don't understand my purpose and two once you understand the trick you understand it. How would I fail if i've completed the goal in buying the item?

If you're gonna buy it, then do it. Actually don't, because it's a serious piece of kit. But if your intetnion was to buy the item, then why do you need to ramble at us about it?

Thanks for all the helpful info though Craig I'm sure with your hardass tendencies you'll be a Mod in no time!

And I'm sure with an attitude like that, you'll be banned in no time.
Although I am rather hoping that Craig will be around soon before the aforementioned happens...