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Postby EckoZero » Jun 25th, '06, 19:28



Having a wee bit of a problem with this move...

I can do it with one, two and even three cards at different locations in the deck.
However, for a trick I'm coming up with, it uses it for three cards that are all next to each other, all three pushed flush with each other.

Is there a way round this? Is it impractical to hide three cards as one using the SAC move or is it just practice, practice and more practice? :?

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Postby the_mog » Jun 25th, '06, 20:01

I'm going right off abbreviations ;) (SFTGROMT!)

Anyways ive no idea what a SAC move is at present (maybe im just having a dumbday?) BUT if its just a case of controlling 3 cards then why not use any of the following....

Diagonal palm shift
Side steal
Double undercut
Multiple shift (Marlo or Jennings versions are personal faves)

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Postby EckoZero » Jun 25th, '06, 20:03

Spread Anglejog Concealment (I believe :shock: I've always called it the SAC move lol)

It's not a case of controlling three cards... what you do is push a card say for example face up into a face down deck, then ribbon spread... hiding the face up card...

Feel free to edit me if I said too much that i shouldn't have!

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Postby Delude » Jun 25th, '06, 20:09

I was actually trying to create a trick like that today but couldn't do it very well. I then tried using a dot of bluetack i nthe corner to stick the card to another so it could be shown if wanted to but it didn't work well at all. i also need help with SAC then [or whatever :D]

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Postby the_mog » Jun 25th, '06, 20:10

ahhhh ok got you now... never heard of it to be honest but theres a lot i dont know..... :mrgreen:

Anyways...isnt it just a case of sidejogging the 3 cards as they are pushed into the deck then spreading the deck between the hands so the 3 are under cover of the top half of the spread?

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Postby EckoZero » Jun 25th, '06, 20:21

No the idea is to be able to spread them out in a ribbon spread whilst concealing them...

It's quite confusing to explain :D
I might give up on trying to do it with 3 cards as 1 and try something easier, like levitating my dads car lol

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Postby john1960uk » Jun 25th, '06, 20:28

Hi

I think Mog has given you a really great tip................. even before he new what the move was :)

Perhaps work on some multiple shift techniques? Marlos multiple shift chapter in RCT would be the best. particularly the lead up to and the all around square up move.

There are other sources, Dear Mr Fantasy springs to mind, with Mr Bannons take on the Elias multiple shift.

Good luck and have fun,
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Postby Delude » Jun 25th, '06, 20:29

Ecko, square up the deck, get the card you want to hide in the ribbon spread [face up] and push in from the right leaveing part of the card poking out, cocneal this with your hand and do a normal ribbon spread, it worked for me! Just expermient with how much of the card you want poking out.

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Postby EckoZero » Jun 25th, '06, 20:30

Does it work for 3 cards squared as 1 though?
As I mentioned,I can do the SAC move just fine... it just doesn't like me when I try to hide 3 cards as 1...

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Postby Delude » Jun 25th, '06, 20:31

Hang on a sec.

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Postby john1960uk » Jun 25th, '06, 20:32

Oh and I did find it easier to learn this type of thing with one card first and work up to 3 or 4.

Hope thats not patronising I'm sure you knew that already :?

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Postby EckoZero » Jun 25th, '06, 20:34

lol No not patronising mate.

I might be rubbish at explaining it, but it's not 3 seperate cards I have an issue with. It's 3 cards, all together. Squared up flush as one card. Because it's considerably thicker than single cards, the spread seems to slip off it a bit and ends up flashing the cards too early...

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Postby katrielalex » Jun 25th, '06, 22:47

I see your problem too. Try:

1) Inserting the cards near the top of the pack then ribbon spreading only the bottom half - as long as you don't let go of the top half it should seem fair.

2) Shortening the spread a bit

3) Stealing the three cards into some type of palm (lateral) before the spread

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Postby EckoZero » Jun 25th, '06, 22:50

Thanks for the tips Kati :D

I was messing around with it earlier and almost gave up on it, but I'll take them into account and try again :D

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Postby katrielalex » Jun 25th, '06, 22:54

Sure ;) Off the top of my head...

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