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Postby EckoZero » Jun 27th, '06, 01:58



The name says it all really...

Enjoy!

http://media.putfile.com/Bluetored

PS: This is from Sankeys Secret Files Volume 1 - someone lent me the DVD and this one trick REALLY stood out for me, so I changed a couple of bits of handling and here it is... :D

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Postby costas » Jun 27th, '06, 04:05

Ecko,

I have not seen Sankeys Secret Files so I do not know how he teaches this effect but your take on it seem pretty good.

While you did not expose anything here are my suggestions on some things you may want to improve on:

· Your initial cut and force were all pretty smooth!

· The first problem I had was the fact that you did not show the card that was selected immediately, which to me or even to a layman would come across as suspicious, and from my understanding of the way this trick would work there is no reason for this to occur.

· The flustration count you used in this effect as a convincer works well but I would recommend using one or at the most two taps when squaring the cards into the deck as this would still give the spectator sufficient time to absorb the visual retention you are purposely creating for them. Taking too long to tap the cards into the deck creates unnecessary delay and suspicion for what you’re trying to prove.

· The instant colour change for the whole deck worked brilliantly and all your angles were perfectly covered!

· The final spread and revealing of the selected card was very well executed! It was performed casually and openly which easily would disarm a spectator from any suspicious thoughts (unfortunately, I feel that this is lacking somewhat in the middle of your routine)

· Regarding the quality of your video: since your recording seems to be set at a lower frame rate I would suggest that you try not move around to quickly or as much as it can be a little disorientating when trying to follow what’s going on.

· Just one more final complaint (just because I am a b***** of a person :lol:). This next suggestion is a little irrelevant to your performance and is truly a personal opinion: While I really like Dream Theatre and loved the song you used (as I have been a loyal heavy metal fan for years), I did not think the music suited this particular performance for the reason that this effect was not just a simple colour change but it required the spectator to try and carefully follow what was being implied. So I feel that the energy of the music was a little to distracting and I found it hard to absorb the effect the first time I watched the video.

Anyway those are my comments and I hope some of them will be helpful to you.

Regards,

Costas

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Postby EckoZero » Jun 27th, '06, 04:19

costas wrote:· Your initial cut and force were all pretty smooth!


Thank you :D

· The first problem I had was the fact that you did not show the card that was selected immediately, which to me or even to a layman would come across as suspicious, and from my understanding of the way this trick would work there is no reason for this to occur.


No there's no reason I couldn't have done it when the card was first selected, but with having no spectator I couldn't hand it to them to have a look and keeping the 2 pakcets in my hand was the easiest... Also, in the Sankey method he wants some misdirection so he thumbs the card off onto the table, does the "you could have picked this one..." schtick and then gets them to look at the card for the misdirection he wants.

· The flustration count you used in this effect as a convincer works well but I would recommend using one or at the most two taps when squaring the cards into the deck as this would still give the spectator sufficient time to absorb the visual retention you are purposely creating for them. Taking too long to tap the cards into the deck creates unnecessary delay and suspicion for what you’re trying to prove.


Yes sorry, you're absolutely right. My problem was once again drawn from trying to watch the camera to see how it looked on preview... this meant I kept my hands doing something so it didn't look like big pauses. Getting a camcorder soon though so it will finally be over, watching out for angles etc. Yay!

· The instant colour change for the whole deck worked brilliantly and all your angles were perfectly covered!


Thanks! I practiced that move a fair bit prior to performing this for the first time :D

· The final spread and revealing of the selected card was very well executed! It was performed casually and openly which easily would disarm a spectator from any suspicious thoughts (unfortunately, I feel that this is lacking somewhat in the middle of your routine)


Thanks again :lol: I try to keep all my routines fairly casual. As you mentioned, casualness disarms the spectator

· Regarding the quality of your video: since your recording seems to be set at a lower frame rate I would suggest that you try not move around to quickly or as much as it can be a little disorientating when trying to follow what’s going on.


Sorreh :oops:

· Just one more final complaint (just because I am a b***** of a person :lol:). This next suggestion is a little irrelevant to your performance and is truly a personal opinion: While I really like Dream Theatre and loved the song you used (as I have been a loyal heavy metal fan for years), I did not think the music suited this particular performance for the reason that this effect was not just a simple colour change but it required the spectator to try and carefully follow what was being implied. So I feel that the energy of the music was a little to distracting and I found it hard to absorb the effect the first time I watched the video.


Yes you are :P :lol: lol. I sort of see what you mean... although a spectator wont be hearing DT throughout the routine and it seemed to work well for me... have to see what others think about it :D


Once again, thanks for commenting.
Your comments are always a pleasure to read, as you offer real advice from a purely objective point of view.

Glad you liked it :D

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Postby magic_evmeister » Jun 27th, '06, 13:30

I can see why you loved this trick and why it stood out to you so much...it did the same for me when I first saw it. I LOVE this trick and have a few suggestion that I hope will be of use to you.

costas wrote:The first problem I had was the fact that you did not show the card that was selected immediately, which to me or even to a layman would come across as suspicious, and from my understanding of the way this trick would work there is no reason for this to occur.

Whilst I agree that in the video this may have been suspicious Sankey's presentation for this is really good. He has the card selected and leaves it face down in the table. Then he goes through saying "You could've had this card, this card, or this card, or any of these cards...which one did you choose" (not a direct quote, just the gist) which works really well.

Also I presume when Costas wrote about the Flushtration count he actually meant the hindu shuffle. I think you should do the hindu shuffle as the convincer a little quicker and use the half you're shuffling from to point to the other half rather than tapping the deck to square it. When I do it it's literally everytime I say "you could've had this card..." they're seeing blue because I'm using it to point at the card I'm referring to. It's very good background information to them that they are absorbing but paying proper attention to so they later think to themselves "all i saw was blue all through the deck - there is no way there was any red cards in there, let along the entire deck!"

One other little thing I sometimes do whilst they're looking at their card after I've shown the deck is riffle shuffle it face up in front of them. They won't believe that you could've shuffled like that without exposing something. But it doesn't really get me any stronger reactions from people, just keeps me amused whilst they look at their card :D

Other than that, it was a beautiful trick that was beatifully performed. Keep up the good work.

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Postby EckoZero » Jun 27th, '06, 15:34

Thank you very much Evmeister, helpful tips and comments as always.

I've been using the tapping to square it off move but I think from now on I will start using the pointing to the other card to show the blue :D

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Postby costas » Jun 28th, '06, 00:14

magic_evmeister wrote: Also I presume when Costas wrote about the Flushtration count he actually meant the hindu shuffle.
I stand corrected :oops:. Sorry, I was thinking of the implication effect created by the flushtration count that's achieved by the pack turning over.

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