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I've done a search on Classic palm and found some very useful tips etc...

However, I was just wondering what sort of timescale I should be looking at for being able to do it well.
I can just about palm a coin now, however, my hand either looks unnatural (think arthritis... any coin magicians know how I mean...) because I'm using the wrong muslce, or the coin just falls out of my hand, because I can't hold it with the muscles properly yet.

So... how long do you think it should be before I can properly palm a coin?

it took me several months to bew able to look natural. i think it may be different for everybody. eventually you will be able to find that with just a very slight change in your hand you can palm the ocin naturally with no problem.

good luck matey boy

Several months? Oh dear
Ah well... I suppose I better keep on practicing.
Anyone got any muscle exercises?

yes mate try coin roll 5 or 6 times then stick it in classic for a few seconds then bring it out to finger tip rest for a few seconds then back to coin roll.

to the onlooking spec it apears that you just produced a coin rolled it and made it vanish, especialy if you add a spider vanish to the classic.

When i started it did take several months to be able to palm well. Just be patient and practise everyday.

Here is a classic tip, it seems strange but it works.

1. Palm the coin
2. Keep in the position for several hours. You now try to write, smoke and do all normal things. After a while you will not even know it is there. Worked for me all those years ago

define well.

There's usable to good but I thought mine was good and then I saw Roth's - that would inspire anyone to practice the palm more!

Usable would be a start
The coin just keeps falling...

Silly thing. Hopefully taking soem of thse tips into account I'll get a usable one soon

I've been practicing my coin palming recently too, I plan to go on a coin learning rampage as soon as I've got my hands on Bobo and Revolutionary Coin Magic this weekend.

Don't wanna boast but classic palming sort of comes naturally to me, don't know why. However, I tend to palm it right in the middle of my palm rather than in the lower 'deeper' position which is the accepted norm. I'm therefore trying to palm it where it should be as I think I'll eventually have more control over it there, have you tried all the spots on your palm or just the conventional one?

I don't think the spot I use is the conventional one, (Stephenmagic correct me if I'm wrong!) but it's close.

There was an article I read about the perfect way to find your palming hotspot so I plam from there.

Tried all over my hand but this actually seems to be the best place now so I'll stick to it for now

I don't think it's really a question of specific timescale to get it right, more that it just keeps improving as you do it more. I imagine everyone's different.

Try palming a coin while you do normal daily activities - eventually you'll get to the stage where you forget it's there. You'll also get used to which movements you can make without flashing a palmed coin.

Check out the palming section on coinvanish.com to make sure your technique is right (though placement varies for different hands and coin sizes). As an indication of whether you have it in the right place, you should be able to use your fingers and thumb pretty much normally while palming

[edit] Oh, sorry stephenmagic, seems I didn't read your post thoroughly enough, and repeated some of it [/edit]

Thanks for backing me up, i PMed our friend with the same kind of thing. See it does work

By the way can people call me Stephen, I have know most of you for a while now! Stephenmagic is too formal

for the first 5yrs of my carrear i was palming coins with my pinky in play so don't be to hung up on being perfect if its not seen by the audience and its not suposed to then don't panic.

take your time, relax and don't get hung up about minor issues it fits were it fits.

The classic palm is more of a journey than a destination. You might be able to palm a coin confidently in three to six months, you may get it in three to six weeks. However, you will still be learning things about it three to six years from now.

You are correct in thinking that the sweet spot is different for each person, and if you are following the advice of your article there's a good chance that you are close. If, though, you are suffering from 'claw hand' it means you are gripping the coin too hard. This can be for several reasons; a lack of confidence, a misalligned sweet spot or the wrong size of coin. Try with a slightly larger coin and see how you get on. It's far easier to learn to palm with different sized coins once you have learned the hold with the ideal size.

The best advice has been given, so I will merely summarise; palm a coin all the time. Practice switching from whatever fingertip rest you use into palm and back. Learn to forget the coin.

Good luck - coin magic with normal coins is a very useful skill to have when you feel the need to perform on the spur of the moment

Take care, Ian

good advice!

Roth suggests having a coin palmed all day!

Greetings

What type of coin are you palming?

I would recomend starting with a 50p and then going on to Half dollars or Old Pennies.

Juat a thought

Dean