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magnets are good for mid to long range.

nothing is realy good for close up without misdirection(ref. t p).

joins are to easely discovered close up rubber cement does a passable job as it allows you time to ajust the fibers as it sets, if you leave a few straglers the rope will look a bit frayed and would be then a logical place to be cut

iv'e only used it for the key on rope effect where a robber cuts the rope and ties it back up, then the magician unties the origional knot makeing it whole.

the only rope routine i do today is the classic cut and restored rope trick where you gather the two ends and the middle of the rope, cut midle and tie to ends set up for the wandering knot

If yu buy rope sets with magnets already in, like 'professors supreme' the joins will stand closer inspection than if you do it yourself, but like all things, with a bit of practice you can get good joints. If you use a Bostik type rubbery glue to atach the magnets it is also quite easy to recycle them when the rope starts to look old.

Thanks guys.

Personally, I do the 'cut'n'restored' routine where you finally end up with a perfect setup for the Professors Nightmare.

But, I've always wanted to go - 1 length rope (actually, rigged rope which is already cut & joined in the professor's nightmare proportions)/Cut'n'Restored/Cut to 3 (well, break joins again!)/Professor's Nightmare/back to 1 length.

Problem is, I'm too close to the speccies, and the final 'back to 1 length' really suffers from problems, as described by MagicDiscoMan.

My original rope routine is great when I'm distanced, but I never do stage stuff - I like the intimacy.

Any ideas??????

Have you guys checked out:

http://www.emagictricks.co.uk/product_i ... ts_id=4022

It looks great on the JBTV Video and works almost as easily in my hands! There's just one move I still have to practice with but it can all look very convincing. And it's on a special low price deal!

We Stock this at studio 9, it is very easy to do, and makes a good routine without any normal rope sleights, just a couple of small gimmicks to hide, which are easily covered by your hands throughout the routine.

Bananafish,

I am presuming that you were originally talking of the effect using string and not rope where you clearly cut the string and hold one piece in each hand before joining them back together.

Did you ever get sorted ? If not, PM me.

Crikey - you have been digging way back in history!

Mandrake,

I was looking for a post that I had seen recently and when I did a search it pulled up this post

If I'd still had all my marbles and have been able to remember the title of the original post I wouldn't have found this

Old age has a lot to answer for

Good GOD!!!

ANYWAY....dental wax.

It is indeed wax used by dentists to model dental appliances, usually the gum area. It is normally pink and comes in convenient sheets. I bet natural (translucent) is available.

I've lost my zest for this punning lark. I guess it's been too sunny...I do better during "inc-lemon-t" weather!!!! huh?... "inc-lemon-t" weather!? Get it?!

....right...sod ya then!

pink? PINK? that just aint gonna do my friend - the whole idea was to join the ends of a piece of string (not rope. did I say rope?) to make it look unbroken. Of course I could have used pink string but somehow it's just not the same...

wow - this is an old thread

for string the best by far is rubber cement from punture repair kits its clear virtualy invisible and has a rubbery feal that will help you find the join.

The problem with some of the rope sets with inbuilt magnets is that the ends have to join up to the 'correct' ends otherwise you get the reverse polarity thing of magnets repelling against each other. I'm sure that there's a name for this but not being a scentific boffin it eludes me (wish that I'd listened in physics lessons now).

Seige - have you tried 'Roped in' by Joe Riding?

This routine starts with a single piece of ungimmicked rope which is cut and then immediately leads into Professors nightmare, rope tied up, knots vanished into restored again piece of rope. The routine is suitable for close up which is how I perform it and it always gets the 'show me that again' reaction.

There's also this clear wax stuff I was given when I got my braces, but I don't know how useful that'd be.

M of M,

You need a quite firm wax which feels dry to the touch yet softens with your body heat when you run your finger over it.

I occasionally do some rope tricks, to break rhythm, and I'd like a way to join the ropes so that stand up to eye inspection (not audience hand-outs).

I've tried the screw-togethers, but they're fiddly, and I've tried wax (which leaves a messy join).

How about sewing a press-stud into the ends you wish to join.
This provides an almost instant and visible join which (depending on your sewing skills !) is quite indetectable from a mid - long range distance.