Coin or Card Tricks?

Struggling with an effect? Any tips (without giving too much away!) you'd like to share?

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Postby Adam Boyes » May 21st, '07, 15:39



Lady of Mystery wrote:Self working tricks are ones that are very simple and require no or very few sleights. Similar to the good old 3 burglars trick. There are some nice ones in each of those books


Look forward to reading these

I've just found this website - http://www.coinvanish.com/

Worth looking at? Or better of with books?

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Postby greedoniz » May 21st, '07, 15:43

Any magic trick you do is pretty much all performance. A magic trick done without patter (talking or presenting a story) will get a reaction from a spectator but if you perform this and get your audience to care and get involved will give a completely different response.
All this comes with experience though so I suggest you learn a few simple effects and make them your own by presenting them using your own personality or lilt on things.......

As to your last post stick with the three books:

Royal road to card
Bobos
Mark Wilsons

These will more than get you started

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Postby Michael Jay » May 21st, '07, 15:44

The trick is a puzzle. The performance of the trick is what can turn that puzzle into magic. So, you choose between being a trickster with a lot of puzzles or a magician with a strong performance.

Regarding Bobo, there is a study guide that may help you along once you get the book here which will help you to navigate what is an encyclopedia of coin magic.

Mike.

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Postby Adam Boyes » May 21st, '07, 15:49

greedoniz wrote:Any magic trick you do is pretty much all performance. A magic trick done without patter (talking or presenting a story) will get a reaction from a spectator but if you perform this and get your audience to care and get involved will give a completely different response.
All this comes with experience though so I suggest you learn a few simple effects and make them your own by presenting them using your own personality or lilt on things.......

As to your last post stick with the three books:

Royal road to card
Bobos
Mark Wilsons

These will more than get you started


Thanks!! Makes perfect sense!

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Postby Adam Boyes » May 21st, '07, 15:50

Michael Jay wrote:The trick is a puzzle. The performance of the trick is what can turn that puzzle into magic. So, you choose between being a trickster with a lot of puzzles or a magician with a strong performance.

Regarding Bobo, there is a study guide that may help you along once you get the book here which will help you to navigate what is an encyclopedia of coin magic.

Mike.


Amazing link!! I can see this being extremely helpful!!

Thanks

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Postby Mandrake » May 21st, '07, 15:53

Good 'ere, innit? :wink: !

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Postby greedoniz » May 21st, '07, 16:00

Yes I love it

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Postby Adam Boyes » May 21st, '07, 16:07

Agreed. It's really cool!!

Most forums I've been on Magic or otherwise usually have really aggressive people on them...and I never end up posting.

At least on TM even if you are a newbie people respond and give honest helpful answers.

It makes the whole experience worthwhile and makes me more determined to learn.

Already I've been pointed in the right direction and I only joined a few days ago

Cheers!!!
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Postby Lyncho » May 21st, '07, 16:13

jbauerctu wrote:At least on TM even if you are a newbie people respond and give honest helpful answers.

It makes the whole experience worthwhile and makes me more determined to learn.


I agree 100%. This seems to be (so far) one of the friendliest forums I've been on. The sheer number of replies in the Introduction section are a testament to that. I love this place, and hopefully I'll continue to stick around for years to come!

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Postby Mandrake » May 21st, '07, 16:14

To be honest, it's as much a reflection on the person doing the asking as those supplying replies - at times like this it's a distinct pleasure to be able to help.

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Postby Wills » May 21st, '07, 16:25

Agreed!! I have found so many of you guys a big help.

Over the past 5 months my skills have increased tenfold.

I showed my housemate a couple of tricks I recently learnt and he said that he's amazed at how my card handing has come on. Its one thing to go- hey is this your card but to perform hot shot cut followed by a shapeshifter. Then a bit later on his card to vanish from the pack and end up in a beer bottle on the table.

It gives me a great sense of acheivement when you do something like that. Considering the fact that I couldn't even perform a riffle shuffle 7 months ago.

Can anybody please help me? I'm having terrible problems controlling my streetmagic- I can't walk down a street without turning into a pub.
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Postby Adam Boyes » May 21st, '07, 16:29

Lyncho wrote:
jbauerctu wrote:At least on TM even if you are a newbie people respond and give honest helpful answers.

It makes the whole experience worthwhile and makes me more determined to learn.


I agree 100%. This seems to be (so far) one of the friendliest forums I've been on. The sheer number of replies in the Introduction section are a testament to that. I love this place, and hopefully I'll continue to stick around for years to come!


Yeah the introductions thread is amazing. I've never seen so many replies to newbies! That section really helped me warm to the forum...

I literally decided I fancied trying some magic after my Girlfriends uncle whilst in Prague did a really cool coin trick and it was doing my head in how it was done. When I was younger I liked magic but not really crazy on it.

Now at 25 I've suddenly decided, I want to try that, so I had a look online then saw this forum and thought, "Why not" I'm sure I can get some information here!

I'm amazed how much info I've found out already! :P

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Postby Adam Boyes » May 21st, '07, 16:31

Mandrake wrote:To be honest, it's as much a reflection on the person doing the asking as those supplying replies - at times like this it's a distinct pleasure to be able to help.


Cheers man!! I'm gonna be on here a lot asking questions I expect!

There's a wealth of different things to read to keep me going for years!

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Postby Lyncho » May 21st, '07, 16:34

Especially if you buy those 3 books that are constantly (and with good reason) recommended to us newbies. I'm sticking mainly with RRTCM at the moment as I want to stick with cards for the time being, but over the summer I'll definitely have to invest in Marc Wilson's Complete Course, and doubtless I'll be overcome with a burning hole in my pocket and buy Modern Coin Magic as well.

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Postby Adam Boyes » May 21st, '07, 16:41

Lyncho wrote:Especially if you buy those 3 books that are constantly (and with good reason) recommended to us newbies. I'm sticking mainly with RRTCM at the moment as I want to stick with cards for the time being, but over the summer I'll definitely have to invest in Marc Wilson's Complete Course, and doubtless I'll be overcome with a burning hole in my pocket and buy Modern Coin Magic as well.


Yeah here's hoping! I can see myself annoying people dropping coins on the table in work!!!!

Out of interest how are you finding RRTCM? I'm intrigued by this book..

I can't even shuffle a pack of card correctly without them going everywhere!! :shock:

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