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Duckman,

all I can say is stick to cards

And on that sensible and very welcome note, I think we ought to move on to other topics as this is all getting very gory - OK folks?

so duckman your an ameture hobbiest of indeterminate age, who wants to have some alien / person plunge through your body, and you want to do this for the adoration of the growd and possibly some payment????.

me thinks you may be closer to mistreess of magic than venerable siege.

no matter anominity is ok with us, workshop plan's are hard to come by purely because there principles are used frequently in varied effects.



if your familiar with the candle through arm trick then your 3/4 the way there, and if your refering to me then its ok to say so, thats what pm's are there for.

i wont shout out in a public resturant how to do the haunted key, but i might wisper some encouragement in your ear

Going back to the aliens you could try peircings...........

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1060

If no-one has any further help for Duckman, I'm inclined to close this thread!!!

It's not only a tad gory, but getting us nowhere!