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Postby storm01 » Oct 9th, '07, 13:03



I'm back to magic after a long lay off and wondered what would be considered a good close up/mentalist routine. I'm awaiting the arrival of Banacheks series and always have time for my esp cards but wondered if there was anything new out there on offer.

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Postby IAIN » Oct 9th, '07, 14:41

dont worry about "new"...just worry about "good"...

study what you got first, there's a sticky on here about mentalism material...go from there :)

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Postby pcwells » Oct 9th, '07, 17:20

Any old effect can be made new by droppping it into a new context. Like Abraxus, my advice would be to keep it simple, look to what you know, and decide on something that you yorself find sensical and magical.

Remember that ESP card effects don't need to be done with ESP cards (or cards of any description in some cases). Similarly, any effect you start to play with can be sent along crazy tangents. Have fun with this kind of thing. Play is good. :)

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Postby storm01 » Oct 9th, '07, 19:41

good advice thanx

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Postby AC » Oct 9th, '07, 21:33

Try what would impress you?

Also try some nlp in routines, it makes mentalism all the more puzzeling( it's also the closest real thing you have to mentalism and hypnotism)

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Postby AndyRegs » Oct 9th, '07, 22:14

Also try some nlp in routines, it makes mentalism all the more puzzeling( it's also the closest real thing you have to mentalism and hypnotism)


For someone starting to look at mentalism, I would say that this isnt the route to take. Start with the classics...Annemann...Corinda...Cassidy etc.
For someone starting to get back into mentalism, there is no need to study NLP.

Personally, I would say that once you become more experienced in mentalism...still avoid NLP. I havent seen one half decent routine (actually I havent even seen a bad routine) based on NLP. I've seen psuedo-NLP routines, but thats different. Does it help with performance...thats debatable as far as I'm concerned. The NLP master practitioners I've met (and by master practitioner, I mean someone who has paid to go on a course in which everyone who pays becomes a master practitioner) have been what is sometimes refered to as NLP zombies, and instead of creating that holy grail of 'Raport', actually do the exact opposite, and make people feel ill at ease with them as they seem to be copying all the movements and gestures you are doing.
Sorry to rant, its just that NLP malarky makes me come out in a rash. A The emperors new clothes comes to mind.

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Postby storm01 » Oct 11th, '07, 09:32

NLP ------------- Deeeeeeeeeeeep Man.

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