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by **magikmax** » Aug 8th, '08, 14:20

havoc wrote:Lol @ marvomarky!!

i appreciate the interest, iain...

Just some basic things to grasp, before you throw yourself into learning magic...

And first warning is that there are bad things that you expose yourself to, but if you follow all of the rules, you are likely not to succumb to those things...

Also, magic is neither evil, nor good... It is simply a tool, that can be used either to help others, or help yourself... The latter may result in a destructive manner... But magic, in and of itself, is nuetral... All up to how the person wants to use it...

There are many ABSTRACT laws of magic. They are not clearly defined or precise, like physical laws, but sorcererss from medeival times up to modern day studiers, have worked hard to set up a basic set of laws, for the followers to study..

You will not find these laws anywhere on the internet, as they are held within a secret society, but i will Post SOME of the general laws of magic. They are very general, and quite OVERBROAD and refer to many things in life, not just magic:

1. Understanding brings control. The more you learn the stronger you will become; the more that is known about something, the easier it is to have control over it.

2. Familiarity with your own strengths and weaknesses is necessary to learn magic.

3. If two ideas, persons, places, or things have something in common (that is, they can be associated with each other), they can affect each other through that commonality. In other words, associations create potential magical links.

those are just a few of the laws of magic... Many more important laws, there are, but didnt feel like writing an essay just yet, lol...

there's a magician based in Kent who names himself after a Norse god that used to spout similar flowery language before he hit the big time (and maybe still does). It's not you is it?

I'm sure there are plenty of laws in magic, I tend to stick to the basics myself, namely, practise in front of a mirror, don't reveal my secrets, and wear an appallingly bright red sparkly jacket every time I perform. Each to their own, chief...

by **FairieSnuff** » Aug 8th, '08, 14:44

magikmax wrote:there's a magician based in Kent who names himself after a Norse god that used to spout similar flowery language before he hit the big time (and maybe still does). It's not you is it?

ooooooooooo are you him? are you hmm hmm, (crossess fingers wildly)

F x

by **Mandrake** » Aug 8th, '08, 15:14

You really don't have a clue, do you havoc?

However just so it sinks in, TalkMagic is not a forum for magic of your kind, it's for conjuring, illusions, entertainment - that sort of thing. If you can't understand that then there isn't much hope for you, and it reflects very badly on how your sort of magic affects your thinking.

If you took the trouble to check, or possibly ask, you'd see that you're not the first to breeze in here offering enlightenment, secret arts, spells, potions and so on. None of your predecessors stayed around very long so why not just take the gentle hints already given and go elsewhere?

by **havoc** » Aug 8th, '08, 19:51

Very simply Mandrake, because there were a couple of posts, on the previous page, that showed interest in what I am doing.

Your arrogance is not making you look any better either, and this magic has not affected my thinking in the slightest. How about you just let me be, and leave this thread? Am I a threat to you?

As mentioned, several of the forum members expressed interest, so I will keep you all updated...

No, I do not know what magician you are talking about, that named himself after a Norse god. You do not hit "THE BIG TIME" if you are truly into magic. You do not use it to gain yourself fame. He sounds like a fake...

That is part of the reason I cannot mention the name of my headmaster and headmistress...

by **Ian The Magic-Ian** » Aug 8th, '08, 20:02

What's arrogant about Mandrake informing you that this is not a Magick message board we perform tricks. He's not assuming anything that you haven't yet told us. As for people expressing interetst, Iain has expressed some interest but the others have just pointed you into the right direction. I think Mandrake made it very clear and I don't know why you can't just listen.

by **havoc** » Aug 8th, '08, 20:05

ARE YOU HIGH?

Mandrakes arrogance came from his unecessary comment of "You really don't have a clue, do you havoc?"

Enough with the arguments...

by **Ian The Magic-Ian** » Aug 8th, '08, 20:13

Was the "ARE YOU HIGH" part really necessary? Honestly.

by **FairieSnuff** » Aug 8th, '08, 20:14

havoc wrote:
No, I do not know what magician you are talking about, that named himself after a Norse god. You do not hit "THE BIG TIME" if you are truly into magic. You do not use it to gain yourself fame. He sounds like a fake...

Although i do not want to get involved and enourage you further !

You have made as assumption on the above person you have no right to do ! How dare you come into a magic forum, (not magick) and spout off at well repspected people on here.
We have asked you politley that this might be a different forum to what you are seeking.
One person showed an interest, in which case PM them. We do not judge anyone on their beliefs but on what they present to us and how they respond to the human race as a whole.
You've judged me, Mr M and my dear norse god of inspiration ! :twisted:

As you for saying about "you do not use magic to gain yourself fame", listen to that lesson, go and find a dark cave alone and play there.

Oh and as for comment "am i a threat to you" :lol:

Please ...............

by **Ian The Magic-Ian** » Aug 8th, '08, 20:16

Can this thread be locked? This is getting out of hand.

by **havoc** » Aug 8th, '08, 20:33

Oh, to the contrary, I DO believe i was PREJUDGED, even by the VERY first response to my original post.

If you don't like what you see, you can leave... No one is making you read this.

by **Ian The Magic-Ian** » Aug 8th, '08, 20:40

You basically told us that you do tricks of witches wizards and sorcerers and and we do magic of an art form such as theater. These are tricks we do and I don't see what you don't get about this. The question marks were added because we thought you stumbled across the wrong forum. You weren't prejudged because what is there to prejudge. We helped you by being kind. We showed you the forum that you may want to look. You will not receive advice on this forum nor will anyone know what your talking about. This is not a forum for witches and wizards but for people interested in TRICKS!

by **havoc** » Aug 8th, '08, 20:48

I wasn't seeking advice. I was offering knowledge. What don't you get about that?

And yes, I understand that this forum is about the art of deception, not true magick...

by **Ian The Magic-Ian** » Aug 8th, '08, 20:51

Why are you offering knowledge to those who don't seek it.

And yes, I understand that this forum is about the art of deception, not true magick

Than why are you still here? For those who have directly expressed interest, PM them. Otherwise you won't find many people here interested.

by **havoc** » Aug 8th, '08, 20:56

As I already mentioned, no one is forcing you to view this thread, so no need for another response from you...

by **Ian The Magic-Ian** » Aug 8th, '08, 20:58

Fine I'm done. You win. I'm sick of arguing with someone who just doesn't get it.

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