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I do like it when people share teodore.

teodore wrote:ask for more

A forced encore but I will participate any anyway... here goes... more?

Here it is:

Preshow work:
Snap a picture of a plain black background then the four of hearts and then another Six of spades. These will not sit in order in your library.

When you snap pictures of the playing card make sure the card is sat on the back background and try get as much of the card in as possible.

Behind the scenes:
Open your iphone at the plain black back ground and now lock your phone!!!

Performance:

You will start by forcing the six of spades using your favourite method. Loose it in the deck and control it to the top...
You will unlock your iphone and show the black screen. Ask your audience member to hold his hand out (flat palm up) and to focus his eye on the iphone...

You will now shake your iphone and as you do simply stroke the touch screen to 'produce' (cough) the four of hearts, stating the iphone has found your card!!

You will now sit the phone on your audience members hand with the four of hearts showing. As he states you are wrong you will perform a d**ble li*t whilst stating something along the lines of: "Your joking, it wasn't this card, the four of hearts... OK dont tell me your card we will give the iphone a final chance to prove its capabilities"

Now finish your d**ble li*t which will leave you with the selected card. Place this card face down on the iphone screen and glide your finger across the screen to your left and the heat of your finger tips will drag the image to the next, the spectators card!

Now you will lift the card off the iphone and reveal his card... He will be gob-smacked, how amazing you where correct... not only that but the power of the iphone has added further miracle and changed the actual playing card in to the selection! A second kick.

This effect does work pretty well.
Probably because its actually a card trick!!!

Joel.

JoelDickinson wrote:I do like it when people share teodore.


This effect does work pretty well.
Probably because its actually a card trick!!!

Joel.

These are some great ideas! I've thought of a couple different ideas too, but I'll work on them and see if they can be developed - the camera offers a lot of possibilities.

Len

dylanmalone wrote:

lenslater wrote:Yep, it's not expensive anyway

Len

Hey Len, if that was you who wrote the good review on the UK App Store today (3/13/10) then thanks. That was an excellent idea you / whoever had about putting in an option for a second card revelation. I think I'm going to look into doing just that, as an option.

Hi,
No it wasn't me - I purchased it this morning, and was playing with it for a while. I do have a few suggestions, and I'll do a review later.

regards
Len

lenslater wrote:

dylanmalone wrote:

lenslater wrote:Yep, it's not expensive anyway

Len

Hey Len, if that was you who wrote the good review on the UK App Store today (3/13/10) then thanks. That was an excellent idea you / whoever had about putting in an option for a second card revelation. I think I'm going to look into doing just that, as an option.

Hi,
No it wasn't me - I purchased it this morning, and was playing with it for a while. I do have a few suggestions, and I'll do a review later.

regards
Len

Thanks. Although the ideas in this thread are good, it's still easier / more convincing to use Magic Card and pay the tiny fee. You need an app to recreate the false home screen (with correct date, time, battery level, etc.), and the fake photo app... etc. But, basically, Magic Card is exactly what's being described here, an open ended way to use your iPhone for cool card revelations. The phone does NOT do the trick. Which is why it's heavily advertised on magic blogs / podcasts... the best customer is really a magician, not a layman. Lay people want the phone to do everything.

I'm having a great time working on this app, even if it isn't terribly lucrative, so keep the ideas coming, I'll probably squeeze them in.

dylanmalone wrote:The phone does NOT do the trick. Which is why it's heavily advertised on magic blogs / podcasts... the best customer is really a magician, not a layman. Lay people want the phone to do everything.

I'm having a great time working on this app, even if it isn't terribly lucrative, so keep the ideas coming, I'll probably squeeze them in.

Hehe Well, I like it - I've made a short review of it over on the reviews (electronic media) area. One thing I find a bit awkward is the very small size of the reveal card - ok, i've only played with it for about 1/2 a day, but it needs a bit of a steady hand and good eye to get the photo 'just right' for this trick. I also think it would be great if you could just use a snapshot of your own 'home' screen (as long as camera is in same place it should work) - this would be more convincing. Anyway, nice app, I'm gonna practice it up some more but I can see myself using it quite a bit.

Len

dylanmalone (creator of Magic Card) wrote:
Thanks. Although the ideas in this thread are good, it's still easier / more convincing to use Magic Card and pay the tiny fee. You need an app to recreate the false home screen (with correct date, time, battery level, etc.), and the fake photo app... etc.

Is it just me or does that sound incredibly eggotistical to anybody else?

Arkesus wrote:

dylanmalone (creator of Magic Card) wrote:
Thanks. Although the ideas in this thread are good, it's still easier / more convincing to use Magic Card and pay the tiny fee. You need an app to recreate the false home screen (with correct date, time, battery level, etc.), and the fake photo app... etc.

Is it just me or does that sound incredibly eggotistical to anybody else?

Seems strange. It didn't relate to my effect in anyway what so ever!

Joel.

Arkesus wrote:

dylanmalone (creator of Magic Card) wrote:
Thanks. Although the ideas in this thread are good, it's still easier / more convincing to use Magic Card and pay the tiny fee. You need an app to recreate the false home screen (with correct date, time, battery level, etc.), and the fake photo app... etc.

Is it just me or does that sound incredibly eggotistical to anybody else?

I kind of assumed it was related to the ideas about how to change his trick, but I could be wrong. I personally liked some of the other effect ideas that got posted here

Len

Arkesus wrote:Is it just me or does that sound incredibly eggotistical [sic] to anybody else?

That's not very nice. Come on- what I said was true. As clever as these presentation ideas are, you can't make the iPhone behave in a 100% natural way without the help of an actual application. My first post in this thread sang the praises of iForce, as another excellent example of a way to do this. My app is the only trick currently on the store for working with actual cards that strikes me as fully convincing in this manner, others may disagree. But it's not egocentric to explain to other magicians why they might like the trick.

At least I have a real love and appreciation for the art of magic, and I'm building my iPhone apps from that perspective. There are so many "spamware" apps that don't come from that perspective on the store now.

Let me turn this question around. Is there anything you wish your iPhone would do to help with a card revelation, coin work, etc. that it cannot currently do? That's the question I ask myself when I sit down to code. I'm looking to make a small collection of magician's tools that cost about what a deck of cards does, that make the phone capable of things you just can't do with just your wits and the built-in software. Perhaps when the next revision of the app comes out it will be more clear, because I do have a bit of "real magic" planned for the update.

I purchased an iPhone last week, and almost immediately ran into iForce. Since then, I've been using it extensively, almost to the point that it's been replacing my swami. The application is well-thought of, and highly reliable once you get used to the method. It's also impossible to detect if you only use it once.

A few tips:

1. Set a color code to go into the settings menu. Otherwise, it's too easy for the spectator to play with the doodle and accidentally get into the menu. Same with the 'reflippable' option.

2. Move the focus away from the device. Focus on the effect, and when you want to write down your prediction, just use the iPhone and show them the doodle app. The iPhone is incidental - it's just what you have in your pocket right now. At least in my country, nobody seems to know doodle anyway, so it helps.

3. A good way I found to use it was to ask the other person write their card / number / color / zener card on a piece of paper, while I wrote it on my iPhone. I tell them we'll reveal at the same time. They show theirs, and I smile and show them I got it right. So far, nobody has paid attention to the fact that they reveal their choice first.

Just my three cents.

You see, I have just written a load of drivel about presentation on another post and number 3 of your post is a fantastic example. The method does not permit you to be able to reveal them at the same time- but it is at least worth a try to get your audience to believe that it could.

dylanmalone wrote:
That's not very nice. Come on- what I said was true. As clever as these presentation ideas are, you can't make the iPhone behave in a 100% natural way without the help of an actual application.

Who is to say what is "natural" for anyone who has not ever seen an iphone in action I would imagine a lot of what it does would appear unnatural. The first time I showed my mum my holiday snaps on mine and turned the screen around. When the image flipped itself to follow the ratio she was taken quite aback by it.
I am inclined to believe that there are more people out there that do not know how an iphone presents visual information than many of us think.

But aside from that, my post was regarding the way that quoted sentence was put forward.

It's never sat well with me for someone to ever respond to a suggestion by pointing out why it is inferior. If you had acknowledged the input of another user by simply thanking them, instead of then going on to try to turn it back around to how great your idea is, and how inferior these other ideas are compared to yours, than I wouldn't have had the opportunity to play the ego card.

Hey guys,

Check out my Scribbles of Destiny that was published in the January, 2010 issue of Genii Magazine.

It pretty much has unlimited possibilities. Using a normal doodle application you get from the App Store (for free!) you are able to change a just drawn doodle into anything!

If you already have the magazine, and want to do the trick as it is described, I created a file on my website where you can download images of all 52 cards. You won't understand what this does if you have not read the magazine.

www.scribblesofdestiny.jeffpracemagic.com

However, even after publishing my own iPhone/iPod Touch tricks, I still believe most of these tricks are weak! People automatically assume it's an app that does the magic, and you get no credit. iForce (and my Scribbles of Destiny) are incredible exceptions, but these the only examples I can say this about. I have tons of "magic apps" and most were a waste of money.

Best regards,

Jeff Prace